BillsBlue Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Yet many on here think Josh Allen is trash ?? Look at what Josh can do with a wr who is a number 2 on a third of NFL rosters. Josh has been passing the eyeball test for me, I don't care about the stats I can see it. The kid is elite, his precision and touch from 1-20 yards is unreal. The rest will come with time but why not get first downs on first or second down as Daboll says. If We can get he another top tier outside wr and some more line help as well as another bruise ng back to pair with singletary that can also catch look the hell out. 1
Fixxxer Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: 8th in the NFL Here is my link, feel free to post yours. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/receiving/table/receiving/sort/receivingYards/dir/desc Michael Thomas with a 88% catch percentage is insane. John Brown is at 65% in case people were wondering. BTW, John Brown career catch percentage average before this year is 50% Edited November 18, 2019 by Fixxxer
CincyBillsFan Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, 19Bills83 said: I thought we needed a #1 WR though? I was wrong calling for a #1 WR because Brown does fit that bill. But what we desperately need is physical diversity at WR. When Brown, Beasley & McKenzie are out there we must have the SMALLEST WR group in the NFL. This robs the O of additional ways to chew up yards & generate TD's. We desperately need a fast, big bodied guy that can get us some 50/50 balls on the deep passes and shield the DB from the ball on those quick throws into tight coverage. Now the obvious answer is Duke Williams so why isn't he even active on recent Sunday's? My only conclusion is that there's a problem we're not aware of. Either physical or he's just not getting the plays down.
19Bills83 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I was wrong calling for a #1 WR because Brown does fit that bill. But what we desperately need is physical diversity at WR. When Brown, Beasley & McKenzie are out there we must have the SMALLEST WR group in the NFL. This robs the O of additional ways to chew up yards & generate TD's. We desperately need a fast, big bodied guy that can get us some 50/50 balls on the deep passes and shield the DB from the ball on those quick throws into tight coverage. Now the obvious answer is Duke Williams so why isn't he even active on recent Sunday's? My only conclusion is that there's a problem we're not aware of. Either physical or he's just not getting the plays down. No idea on Duke either, he is your man to fight for a ball too. Would be a great RZ weapon if utilized proper. I was hoping Foster would turn into that Goodwin role. It could still happen if Allen can just get's his deep balls going again. Edited November 18, 2019 by 19Bills83 1
Luka Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 He's Josh's number 1 option at the moment and it was great to see Josh not shying away from him. Just throw him the ball. I still think a big and physical guy that can make the acrobatic catches, the 50/50 ball along the sidelines and in the endzone should be a priority this off season. The Bills still need that reason for teams to play zone. A lot of DCs have taken their chances and played man to man and blitzed Allen because they feel they have favorable matchups in the secondary. You put a bigger guy on the other side that teams feel like they have to double to keep their corner from getting "Mossed" down the side line and you completely open up the offense. Allen's arm strength has proven time and again that it can shred zone defenses at all three levels.
Jasovon Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 This absolutely shocks me. What a free agent signing.
JimKellyTryouts Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 He could - dare I say should? - have even more yards with some missed plays and deep shots over the season. It makes me giddy to think about for the remainder of this year and seasons to come.
vincec Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Why do you think Tyreek Hill is doing so well? 1
The Jokeman Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Fantasy owners foiled once again. DJ Chark at 10 lol. I just want him to know that I have full control over his stats. If I bench him he balls out. If I start him he does nothing. Never. Fails. Keep him benched, I traded Derek Carr for him last week because was worried about Jermaine Kearse's health and Chark helped me win this week.
billsfan89 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, njbuff said: Can someone else emerge this season to help him out? Cole Beasley is solid underneath. The problem has been another receiver hasn’t really been there. Can Dawson Knox be that second guy moving forward? Or is this problem only solved with the 2020 offseason? I don't see a major breakout or upgrade happening to help alleviate the burden on Brown, Beasley, and Knox. I thought Robert Foster might come up and pop a few chunk plays now and again which would help the core a bit to have someone else be a downfield threat. But in 2020 they are going to have to find another weapon in the receiving core. I think Knox could handle the TE position in 2020 (although a true vet backup would be nice, someone in Kroft's role but actually good.) But if there is no help coming at WR.
Saxum Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Augie said: Foster is a slow starter, but after about 10 games....watch out! He looked like a TOTALLY different player at the end of last year. I miss that guy! No idea what the difference is. Appears like an old machine he needs a kick to get started but unfortunately the kicker is in Kansas City.
TPS Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, eball said: If only we had a #1... I kid, I kid, of course it would be nice to have another stud to complement Brown but after 10 weeks you can no longer say it's a fluke. The dude can ball and isn't just a "deep threat." yeah, me-thinks mckenzie doesn't strike fear in the hearts of our opponents...
Saxum Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, TPS said: yeah, me-thinks mckenzie doesn't strike fear in the hearts of our opponents... Certainly not the Broncos who cut him.
3rdand12 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, TigerJ said: AFC, not NFL. Still, that's pretty impressive. Brown has always been good, but the Bills figured out he's not just a one trick pony (deep ball specialist). if you look at the routes he ran sunday, you have to be impressed. We had and have nay saers about his skill set. But he sure looks darned good to me in many an aspect.
3rdand12 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: I was wrong calling for a #1 WR because Brown does fit that bill. But what we desperately need is physical diversity at WR. When Brown, Beasley & McKenzie are out there we must have the SMALLEST WR group in the NFL. This robs the O of additional ways to chew up yards & generate TD's. We desperately need a fast, big bodied guy that can get us some 50/50 balls on the deep passes and shield the DB from the ball on those quick throws into tight coverage. Now the obvious answer is Duke Williams so why isn't he even active on recent Sunday's? My only conclusion is that there's a problem we're not aware of. Either physical or he's just not getting the plays down. EVERYONE wants a Big Fast Guys who catch the contested ball is Randy Moss available. I suspect we might see some Duke before season end. and maybe some foster again. hope they are both inspired by Mr Brown 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: I don't see a major breakout or upgrade happening to help alleviate the burden on Brown, Beasley, and Knox. I thought Robert Foster might come up and pop a few chunk plays now and again which would help the core a bit to have someone else be a downfield threat. But in 2020 they are going to have to find another weapon in the receiving core. I think Knox could handle the TE position in 2020 (although a true vet backup would be nice, someone in Kroft's role but actually good.) But if there is no help coming at WR. Sweeney. : )
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, TPS said: yeah, me-thinks mckenzie doesn't strike fear in the hearts of our opponents... He is a gadget guy. Brown looks good. love to see AJ, Brown and Cole lined up next year with Knox at TE and Singletary in the backfield. And an OC who knows how to keep everyone happy by getting them touches.
YoloinOhio Posted November 19, 2019 Author Posted November 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Certainly not the Broncos who cut him. Ooh the McKittrick Revenge Game!
Reed83HOF Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Reported 26CB never had these gaffes 1 3
VW82 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Our whole receiving core (Brown, Beasley, Knox, Mckenzie) is underrated. None of them are traditional WR1 but they all regularly get open. Edited November 19, 2019 by VW82 1
Troll Toll Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 To me, this thread is more of a credit to Josh Allen than John Brown. Get some top tier receivers like Mike Evans in Buffalo and watch Josh ball!
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