Seantrel Henderson - OT depth? (Update - visiting Bills)

[Kirby Jackson]

11 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

I guess it’s worth a shot then, given the options at this point in the year 

He’d be the perfect reserve OT at this point with Nsekhe out. He’s played LT and RT and has started 29 games. He can do either in a pinch and lends some much needed depth. He’s not a great player but he’s probably a 3rd tackle on most teams. The fact that he can play either side makes him slightly more valuable. 
 

Also, we dress some guys like Perry to do nothing but play ST and our ST stink. You can just slide someone else into that role and get the same level of performance. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Kirby Jackson

[TroutDog]

This argument is so silly. If you’ve never been through chronic pain, you don’t know what you’re talking about. In addition, ALL players go through ongoing pain during the season. 
 

Seantrel went through a debilitating disease and handled it the best he could. All other arguments are simply silly. If his chromes is in check, he should be looked at. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 minutes ago, Kiva said:

 

Old post. Regardless, off the top of my head;

Brian Mihalik,

Sam Young,

Austin Pasztor

 

would all be improvements

 

 

What happened to Caleb Benenoch and Corey Robinson, weren't they on your list earlier? 

Maybe I was seeing things.

 

Bills had Mihalik and Young in on Tues and must not have been too impressed.   Same with Benenoch and Robinson.

 

Haven't heard anything of them looking at Austin Pasztor, but he hasn't started anywhere and has played a grand total of 4 offensive snaps since 2016, so not sure what the criteria might be for thinking he's an improvement

27 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

I guess it’s worth a shot then, given the options at this point in the year 

 

The main question I have about Henderson is why Houston cut him

 

They put him on reserve/Non Football Injury in mid-October, said to be with a back injury.  A bit of a strange thing since usually a back injury during the season would be a football injury.

 

[Big Turk]

36 minutes ago, Locomark said:

That’s different! Players aren’t using the substance at work. Your work can’t tell you not to drink at home on the weekend, can they????

 

Maybe...you can be fired for any reason or no reason, just not an illegal reason.

 

It's not illegal to tell someone not to drink on the weekends.

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What happened to Caleb Benenoch and Corey Robinson, weren't they on your list earlier? 

Maybe I was seeing things.

 

Bills had Mihalik and Young in on Tues and must not have been too impressed.   Same with Benenoch and Robinson.

 

Haven't heard anything of them looking at Austin Pasztor, but he hasn't started anywhere and has played a grand total of 4 offensive snaps since 2016, so not sure what the criteria might be for thinking he's an improvement

 

 

 

The main question I have about Henderson is why Houston cut him

 

They put him on reserve/Non Football Injury in mid-October, said to be with a back injury.  A bit of a strange thing since usually a back injury during the season would be a football injury.

 

They actually did bring in Pascztor for a workout this week too

 

im going to assume Brian Gaine knows everything about the Henderson situation in Houston, whatever it may be

[Rocky Landing]

I did a PSA for an organization called the Gridiron Cannabis Coalition a few years ago, and had a pretty lengthy conversation with former Phins RB Ricky Williams. He's quite the activist in that regard. He knew Seantrel personally, and knew a lot about his situation when he was really suffering with the Crohn's Disease. He said the choice for him, at the time, was either the weed, or literally a handful of pills a day. 

 

From what I understand, he worked incredibly hard to get himself back into shape after some really brutal surgery that included re-attaching his colon to his rectum, which resulted in him losing 35-40 lbs of muscle. He was a pretty decent RT before the Crohn's sidelined him, and if he's in decent shape, I'd say this is a high-character guy that we'd be happy to have as depth.

Edited November 23, 2019 by Rocky Landing

[Phil The Thrill]

7 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I did a PSA for an organization called the Gridiron Cannabis Coalition a few years ago, and had a pretty lengthy conversation with former Phins RB Ricky Williams. He's quite the activist in that regard. He knew Seantrel personally, and knew a lot about his situation when he was really suffering with the Crohn's Disease. He said the choice for him, at the time, was either the weed, or literally a handful of pills a day. 

 

From what I understand, he worked incredibly hard to get himself back into shape after some really brutal surgery that included re-attaching his colon to his rectum, which resulted in him losing 35-40 lbs of muscle. He was a pretty decent RT before the Crohn's sidelined him, and if he's in decent shape, I'd say this is a high-character guy that we'd be happy to have as depth.

This has been discussed in the thread.  ThT narrative about Seantrel is a cop out.  Why didn’t Seantrel follow the proper protocol and notify the NFL that he was prescribed medical marijuana? 

[Big Turk]

10 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

This has been discussed in the thread.  ThT narrative about Seantrel is a cop out.  Why didn’t Seantrel follow the proper protocol and notify the NFL that he was prescribed medical marijuana? 

 

Probably because it wouldn't have mattered...the NFL doesn't care. It's banned.

[Mr. WEO]

58 minutes ago, Locomark said:

It’s already been debated heavily among national commentators that medicinal weed is likely to be unbanned since it is now legal when a doctor prescribes it in a ton of states. Also it’s likely to be unbanned at the next CBA. You can’t have society make it legal and then your employer suspend you for it. They aren’t driving heavy machinery !!!! 

 

 

It will surprise you that employers absolutely can do just that.  Only a dozen states prohibit employers from discriminating against employees who test positive even if using medically off duty.

 

Most states allow employers to have a zero tolerance for off-duty use.

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

It will surprise you that employers absolutely can do just that.  Only a dozen states prohibit employers from discriminating against employees who test positive even if using medically off duty.

 

Most states allow employers to have a zero tolerance for off-duty use.

It’s a weird place in the insurance world at this point too. Honestly, I think that the “how do we control it” question is what’s delaying a more widespread legalization. How much is okay to drive with? What about hiring? How do we tax it? How do we regulate that it’s pure? There are a lot more questions than answers.

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s a weird place in the insurance world at this point too. Honestly, I think that the “how do we control it” question is what’s delaying a more widespread legalization. How much is okay to drive with? What about hiring? How do we tax it? How do we regulate that it’s pure? There are a lot more questions than answers.

 

Taxing part is easy LOL--lawmakers always figure that out quickly.

 

The purity issue would regulate itself, as does alcohol and tobacco--by the companies that want to sell it. 

 

Driving will always be a zero tolerance scenario--that's easy.  Same as for opioids and alcohol.

 

I bet most insurers will simply exclude it because there is no incentive for them to cover it, even if prescribed.

 

 

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Taxing part is easy LOL--lawmakers always figure that out quickly.

 

The purity issue would regulate itself, as does alcohol and tobacco--by the companies that want to sell it. 

 

Driving will always be a zero tolerance scenario--that's easy.  Same as for opioids and alcohol.

 

I bet most insurers will simply exclude it because there is no incentive for them to cover it, even if prescribed.

 

 

 

 

Oh I’m sure that they will figure it out, a lot of states already have. Now that you can bank the funds it’s a step in the right direction. It just takes a little time for the red tape. I don’t think that there are too many places left questioning it’s benefits especially when opposed to the alternatives. It’s only a matter of time but there are issues to settle.

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, Locomark said:

That’s different! Players aren’t using the substance at work. Your work can’t tell you not to drink at home on the weekend, can they????

 

Honestly - many of the players talk about smoking an hour or so before kickoff in the locker room.  So technically several players have admitted to using directly at work.

 

 

[Tenhigh]

50 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

This has been discussed in the thread.  ThT narrative about Seantrel is a cop out.  Why didn’t Seantrel follow the proper protocol and notify the NFL that he was prescribed medical marijuana? 

If my options are opiods or weed to manage my pain from a crippling disease, I pick weed.  If he applied to the NFL for a medical exemption it would have taken months.  I have zero issue with a guy choosing life over opoids. 

[H2o]

1 minute ago, Tenhigh said:

If my options are opiods or weed to manage my pain from a crippling disease, I pick weed.  If he applied to the NFL for a medical exemption it would have taken months.  I have zero issue with a guy choosing life over opoids. 

I think it was to help increase his appetite as well, or at least that was part of his reasoning. 

[Dopey]

6 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

If my options are opiods or weed to manage my pain from a crippling disease, I pick weed.  If he applied to the NFL for a medical exemption it would have taken months.  I have zero issue with a guy choosing life over opoids. 

I was prescribed oxycontin twice in my life. Tried it the 1st time. I ended up trading with my weed dealer. 

[Putin]

On 11/18/2019 at 2:27 PM, Kiva said:

There has to be better options than Seantrel...

Name one 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/11/buffalo-bills-host-seantrel-henderson-on-free-agent-visit-report.html

 

11 minutes ago, Putin said:

Name one 

 

That was my reaction too.  He named 3 or 5, all but one of whom the Bills were already reported to have tried out earlier this week.

The one hasn't started a game since 2016, but YOLO said he was actually tried out too.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

13 minutes ago, Putin said:

Name one 

Ryan Bates

[Kiva]

18 minutes ago, Putin said:

Name one 

Ryan Bates...