dave mcbride Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) I thought it might be a good idea to revisit that decision, largely because he has proven now that he's an above-average NFL starting DT. After reading this, I am so glad that Gase is still coaching in the AFC East: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article222300710.html. Edited November 18, 2019 by dave mcbride 5 1 3
Warcodered Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Yeah I mean they cut Jordan Phillips last year, this year he's currently leading all DTs in sacks. 1
dave mcbride Posted November 18, 2019 Author Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) He was a high draft pick too, going in the first half of the second round. A lot of people thought he'd go in the late first. Walter Football was pretty high on him: https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015jphillips.php In this draft scouting report, he's compared to Snacks Harrison: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2410300-jordan-phillips-nfl-draft-2015-scouting-report-grade-for-dolphins-rookie The larger point is that guys like Phillips aren't always going to be ideal employees, and you have to actually manage them because the talent is there. You can't give up on it. Maybe you trade the player or sit him down, but cutting a talented player like that when you're 3-1 (which is what the Dolphins were after 4 games last season) is just plain dumb. Phillips wasn't his guy -- he was drafted just prior to the last year of the Joe Philbin era -- and Gase's emotional reaction got the best of him (as it did with other players). It certainly worked out for the Bills -- Phillips has been truly disruptive this season. Edited November 18, 2019 by dave mcbride 3 2
Big Turk Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Gase is an egomaniac fake tough guy whose players don't like or respect him. 3 2
ColoradoBills Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Is there any other Jet players lurking out there that can help the Bills? Come on Gase, help us out some more!
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 I’ll admit I didn’t think Gase was as bad as people made him out to be. But he seems to have some social issues and is a total weirdo. He’s probably fine as an OC but isn’t a leader of men. Happy to admit I’m wrong and that he’s the Jets coach. 3
r00tabaga Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 He technically sacked Fitz in Buffalo but because it was so fast, it was just logged as TFL. He should have 8 sacks. 5
st pete gogolak Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: He technically sacked Fitz in Buffalo but because it was so fast, it was just logged as TFL. He should have 8 sacks. Not counting it as a sack cost me a fantasy football win. Still waiting to reverse the decision. 1 1
Captain_Quint Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I’ll admit I didn’t think Gase was as bad as people made him out to be. But he seems to have some social issues and is a total weirdo. He’s probably fine as an OC but isn’t a leader of men. Happy to admit I’m wrong and that he’s the Jets coach. Agree 100%. The more I see of him, he seems like an introvert who has a decent grasp of the x's and o's, but has trouble leading people.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Gase is an egomaniac fake tough guy whose players don't like or respect him. And apparently, a taste for tacos. ? 2
eball Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I’ll admit I didn’t think Gase was as bad as people made him out to be. But he seems to have some social issues and is a total weirdo. He’s probably fine as an OC but isn’t a leader of men. Happy to admit I’m wrong and that he’s the Jets coach. Big of you to finally come around and admit your mistake.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: He was a high draft pick too, going in the first half of the second round. A lot of people thought he'd go in the late first. Walter Football was pretty high on him: https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015jphillips.php In this draft scouting report, he's compared to Snacks Harrison: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2410300-jordan-phillips-nfl-draft-2015-scouting-report-grade-for-dolphins-rookie The larger point is that guys like Phillips aren't always going to be ideal employees, and you have to actually manage them because the talent is there. You can't give up on it. Maybe you trade the player or sit him down, but cutting a talented player like that when you're 3-1 (which is what the Dolphins were after 4 games last season) is just plain dumb. Phillips wasn't his guy -- he was drafted just prior to the last year of the Joe Philbin era -- and Gase's emotional reaction got the best of him (as it did with other players). It certainly worked out for the Bills -- Phillips has been truly disruptive this season. Cutting "not my guy" is one of the most overdone and stupid things new coaches and GMs do. It's just dumb. And only should be done if that coach or GM already evaluated the guy in college specifically and in depth, ALREADY didn't like him, then studied his entire pro career in depth, STILL didn't like him, and thought we could do significantly better. Edited November 18, 2019 by Kelly the Dog 2
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: He technically sacked Fitz in Buffalo but because it was so fast, it was just logged as TFL. He should have 8 sacks. I thought they were gonna do that to Ed yesterday. I’m pretty sure it was gonna be a run and Ed just got back there way too fast. 1
WhoTom Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Quote And this is not about how Phillips will be motivated to play the Dolphins because he’s upset they cut him. Why would be be upset? If anything, I'm guessing he's grateful.
Albany,n.y. Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Is there any other Jet players lurking out there that can help the Bills? Come on Gase, help us out some more! Gase never wanted Bell.
OZBILLS Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: But he seems to have some social issues and is a total weirdo. He definitely has the dead body of his mother still laying in the bed they share. 2 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, eball said: Big of you to finally come around and admit your mistake. Yeah, I’m shocked as you are that I was wrong! I do think the Jets season is different if they don’t lose Darnold and Mosley though. But Gase has an awful personality. They are better off admitting their mistake and moving on.
starrymessenger Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Cutting "not my guy" is one of the most overdone and stupid things new coaches and GMs do. It's just dumb. And only should be done if that coach or GM already evaluated the guy in college specifically and in depth, ALREADY didn't like him, then studied his entire pro career in depth, STILL didn't like him, and thought we could do significantly better. And not just in football. Happens in ordinary workplace environments all the time when the new boss shows up. And it's not less stupid. I attribute it to insecurity. 2
ColoradoBills Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Gase never wanted Bell. It would be funny to see how the Jests fan would react to that. 1
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