SinceThe70s Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, matter2003 said: It was...league has been sending a clear message since week 1 that they are not going to overturn PI calls..no idea why coaches are still challenging them. This is a one and done rule and will likely only be kept around for playoffs Totally agree. Riveron has put himself in a bad place for the playoffs. If a play like that goes to review at a big moment in the playoffs whichever way he rules will be wrong.
Freddie's Dead Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 The refs are giving the competition committee the international signal of ill will. That was ridiculously PI, dude was tugging on him long before ball got there, then spun him around just before the ball got there. 1
Coach Tuesday Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, NoSaint said: it’s not a conspiracy. The Nfl has simply directed that short of an egregious and likely seemingly intentional act they aren’t doing it. quite literally they are treating it as an nfc championship game rule not as an any given Sunday occurrence. I’m on the fence with how I feel about that but it seems the reality and I’m not sure that a high threshold requires talk of conspiracy under that thought why isn’t every call the same way? i think none of them want every deep ball with contact to be challenged so they said to only give it to the worst of the worst I think the union boss happens also to be incompetent...
peterpan Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 I see more egregious penalties missed by the dozens every week. Not sure why this miss is causing such a stir. NFL needs to develop an AI of robot refs to officiate the games fairly. But if you ask me, it ain't about fairness, because some teams are supposed to get the calls while others are not. Refs determine the winners as much as the teams do
djp14150 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said: It’s weird cause they overturned a non called PI in the 49ers/Cardinals against Richard Sherman, then called him for PI. First one I’ve seen overturned. Thats the WTF call... I saw the call not made in hou-bs,t which was obviously PI then they overturn a non PI call in AZ-SF that non overturn affected the mojo in hou-calt game.
BananaB Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 NFL loves the Ravens right now, they are gonna get calls that go their way
Don Otreply Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: It was...league has been sending a clear message since week 1 that they are not going to overturn PI calls..no idea why coaches are still challenging them. This is a one and done rule and will likely only be kept around for playoffs It was the league that said it’s okay to challenge that type of play, if the zebras are protesting by breaking the rules the league set the league needs to jerk a knot in The zebras azsez.
zow2 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 I didn’t read the thread. But it’s obvious that PI won’t be called or overturned during the regular season. This review will be used exclusively to prevent playoff game(s) from being affected by an egregious non-call or blatant blown call. So maybe we will see this type of call reversed in the playoffs. Makes no sense to not enforce it during the regular season but someone high up has made that decision.
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 As stated previously the officials decide the game at least once a week. I am not surprised by bad call or Al Riveron flat out lying to protect himself and his officials. That was egregious PI and should have been called both on the field and on review.
StHustle Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, BananaB said: NFL loves the Ravens right now, they are gonna get calls that go their way If you've been paying any attention you'd know it has nothing to do with the Ravens
jlgarsh Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Bferra13 said: Corrupt officials? Corrupt Riveron? I miss those replacement refs in 2012 or what not. They woulda fine with a year or so under their belts. They made mistakes but at least they were calling penalties without playing favorites
/dev/null Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 This is PI in two of four scenarios Scenario 1: Objective review of the play Scenario 2: PI call benefits a favored franchise This is not PI in two scenarios Scenario 3: PI call hurts a favored franchise Scenario 4: The ref is a moron and the League Office is covering their ass
KD in CA Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 What, what??? Replay didn't 'get it right'??? I'm shocked!!!
Vod Kanockers Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: PI easily. Officiating needs a major overhaul. People can keep blaming “blind officials” or they can accept the fact that the games are fixed. At some point, we all need to realize that Santa isn’t real. Does everyone really believe that a group of billionaires are going to leave things up to “chance”? ?♂️ 1
Happy Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Vod Kanockers said: People can keep blaming “blind officials” or they can accept the fact that the games are fixed. At some point, we all need to realize that Santa isn’t real. Does everyone really believe that a group of billionaires are going to leave things up to “chance”? ?♂️ You're going off the deep end with this take. I doubt a group of billionaires would go along with a "fixed" league where their team doesn't have a chance to win because the league and officials say so. That said, something looks off and calls like this have to make you wonder what is going on. IMO, it starts with Roger Goodell, who never should have got a new contract a couple of years ago. If Roger wants Al Riveron to go, he could fire crooked Al, but he hasn't. As far as in game officiating, full time professional refs should be employed at a minimum.
Vod Kanockers Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: You're going off the deep end with this take. I doubt a group of billionaires would go along with a "fixed" league where their team doesn't have a chance to win because the league and officials say so. That said, something looks off and calls like this have to make you wonder what is going on. IMO, it starts with Roger Goodell, who never should have got a new contract a couple of years ago. If Roger wants Al Riveron to go, he could fire crooked Al, but he hasn't. As far as in game officiating, full time professional refs should be employed at a minimum. Which give is more plausible? That millions of people around the world can easily see a penalty via replay, (who aren’t full time employees either) and that 5 “professionals” fail to see it.. orrrr that they’re just being blatant now, and throwing it in our faces? ?♂️ Billionaires only care about one thing.. making more money. Hanging a banner in a building that cost them 100’s of millions of dollars, is a distant second. For reference, check out how much closer the average scores of the games are since Goodell took office, compared to previous regimes. Now compare the ratings, and tv revenue dollars. Being an NFL owner is no different than being in a secret society such as Skull and Bones. ”Winning” is a distant 2nd place to being able to print your own money. Which is what happens when you become an NFL owner. Edited November 18, 2019 by Vod Kanockers
Rochesterfan Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Don Otreply said: It was the league that said it’s okay to challenge that type of play, if the zebras are protesting by breaking the rules the league set the league needs to jerk a knot in The zebras azsez. No it was the competition committee lead by Sean Payton that created the rule and the challenge. The League saw it as another catch rule failure - that also came out of the competition committee - and came out and stated early unless it was a play similar to the playoff game they were not going to overturn these in most cases. You saw the reason why in the preseason because the coaches were going to challenge every little bit of contact and it was going to make things unbearable. Therefore from early on - the league has overturned very few of these. If the refs on the field are letting them play and did not call this contact all game - I have no issue with it not getting overturned. It is clear that there is contact I would of had no issue with them throwing a flag for PI, but since they didn’t call it - I have no issue with them not overturning it. Watching the rest of the game - they allowed pretty physical play on the outside with few calls - so that stayed right in line with the rest of the officiating.
Rochesterfan Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Talley56 said: Apparently the Cardinals were called for a PI that should have actually been on the Niners (and that was a much closer game). Seems the calls are inconsistent. I saw that - should of been a no call, but the Cardinal DB got in the way and prevented the 49er receiver from getting to the spot. The DB did try to turn, but he was running/moving much slower and the WR ran up his back trying to get to the ball. In my opinion, the best call would have been to just let them play, but the call could go either way and been fine. The DB cut off the WR and prevented him from his route. The WR also increased the contact and could easily have been called himself.
Matt_In_NH Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) No chance that got reversed....the refs are doing a "silent protest" of sorts on this, total waste of a timeout. That challenge is really only meant to reverse the NFC championship game situation which happens about once per 100 years. The concept of challenging uncalled penalties is a pandora's box I don't think we want. Edited November 18, 2019 by mattynh
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