Steelers Browns: who should get suspended and how long?

[atlbillsfan1975]

I just watched it.

Ridiculous. Garrett should be done for this year and conditionally reinstated next year. 
No room for any of that in the game. 
I hope the Browns don’t put his fine up on a TV, some people will then thick the Browns or NFL is the problem. SMH

[Nextmanup]

Just finished watching the incident now.

 

Very entertaining.  One of the better melees I've seen on an NFL field.

 

Garrett: 5 minutes fighting; 10 min. misconduct; Gross misconduct

 

Rudolph: 2 minutes instigator; 5 minutes fighting; 10 min. misconduct; game misconduct

 

Ogunjobi: 2 minutes roughing; 10 minute misconduct

 

Pouncey: 5 minutes fighting; Gross misconduct

 

 

Edited November 15, 2019 by Nextmanup

[Nextmanup]

5 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Myles Garrett should be banned for life.

 

Having said that, I have a feeling the following will be lost in the discussion: Mason Rudolph did commit the first non-football act of aggression there. Let's not pretend that didn't happen. It in no way justifies what followed, but it nonetheless occurred and should not be ignored just because Rudolph was brutalized. He should be suspended a game.

Please.

 

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Rest of the season (six games) and the first four games next year.  Hefty fine as well.  The NFL has no choice.

That's ridiculous.

 

I'm guessing he gets a couple games.

 

 

[Golden Goat]

The rest of this season and half of next.

[ThurmasThoman]

2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

An appropriate suspension as Mcsoreley had a history.

 

I'm not saying NOT to suspend Garrett, I'm specifically talking to the fans and their selective outrage.

 

Guy flips a bat in MLB and his next at bat he gets a 90mph fastball toward his head and neck and it's just "a part of the game".  

 

I hate the double standard and I hate when fans overreact.

 

I gotta say: I agree with you.
I've watched that video several times and... I just don't see it. I don't see where the complete and total outrage comes from.

To those saying he could have killed him: I mean, he DID hit him in the head, with the leading edge of the helmet, and Rudolph was 100% fine. I'm not going to try to understand the thoughts going through Garret's mind, or his intentions, but is it possible he took some mustard off his swing so as to NOT injure him. Because a lot of the panic this morning seems to be centered on "imagine if he had hit him in the head and killed him!", and, again, he DID hit him in the head. Intentionally. With the most dangerous angle of the weapon. And Rudolph was very obviously fine.

I'm way, way, way more fascinated with the battle lines being drawn so quickly, and how the internet escalates that process. It's 2019 America at it's finest. It's the most egregious thing EVER that needs a HISTORIC suspension and NO ROOM FOR DEBATE. Every week there's a new headline to get our dopamine receptors activated, a new outrage of historic proportions that we will surely still be talking about tomorrow at lunch (we won't).

Anyways, I'm open to changing my mind on my stance, but after reading through this thread I still don't see a justification for anything more than... a 2 game ban? Maybe, MAYBE 4 because the other player was defenseless, in the sense that they were without their helmet.

 

[Rochesterfan]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I’d like to see at least an 8 game suspension so they’re penalized next season as well. This is a situation where the league can and probably will send a message.

 

I agree - my thought is make it 8-10 regular season games and take it into next year.  If they make the post season those games do not count toward the suspension.  
 

If he misses the rest of this year and the first 2-4 games next year - then you have a bit of discipline to fall back on.

 

They also need to get the NFLPA to discuss this and actually back the attacked player rather than fight for the scum bag.

[eball]

Gotta be remainder of season (including playoffs).  The league would be crucified for anything less.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

I mean, he really could have killed him. 

[Boca BIlls]

Hopefully forever any trouble the Browns can face I will happily watch.

[Beast]

I say 16 games.

[Nextmanup]

2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

An appropriate suspension as Mcsoreley had a history.

 

I'm not saying NOT to suspend Garrett, I'm specifically talking to the fans and their selective outrage.

 

Guy flips a bat in MLB and his next at bat he gets a 90mph fastball toward his head and neck and it's just "a part of the game".  

 

I hate the double standard and I hate when fans overreact.

You're one of the few posters in this thread making sense.

 

I find the level of "outrage" at this ultimately meaningless incident as really bizarre and kind of humorous.

 

These guys are out here destroying their bodies an turning themselves into brainless zombies all the time, whether you notice it or not.  A little scrap like this is almost harmless in comparison to a 10 year career, just from the brain trauma aspect of it, let alone the abuse to joints, organs, and everything else.

 

 

[CommonCents]

13 minutes ago, JohnnyGold said:

 

I gotta say: I agree with you.
I've watched that video several times and... I just don't see it. I don't see where the complete and total outrage comes from.

To those saying he could have killed him: I mean, he DID hit him in the head, with the leading edge of the helmet, and Rudolph was 100% fine. I'm not going to try to understand the thoughts going through Garret's mind, or his intentions, but is it possible he took some mustard off his swing so as to NOT injure him. Because a lot of the panic this morning seems to be centered on "imagine if he had hit him in the head and killed him!", and, again, he DID hit him in the head. Intentionally. With the most dangerous angle of the weapon. And Rudolph was very obviously fine.

I'm way, way, way more fascinated with the battle lines being drawn so quickly, and how the internet escalates that process. It's 2019 America at it's finest. It's the most egregious thing EVER that needs a HISTORIC suspension and NO ROOM FOR DEBATE. Every week there's a new headline to get our dopamine receptors activated, a new outrage of historic proportions that we will surely still be talking about tomorrow at lunch (we won't).

Anyways, I'm open to changing my mind on my stance, but after reading through this thread I still don't see a justification for anything more than... a 2 game ban? Maybe, MAYBE 4 because the other player was defenseless, in the sense that they were without their helmet.

 

Then we have people like yourself who exaggerate the amount of people that actually get hyped up over twits teeeting on Twitter. 

 

It’s out of a damn movie script, ripping off someone’s helmet then smashing them in the head with it. There is no place for that in the game at any level. I don’t need the media to tell me that. He should be suspended for a long time.

[uticaclub]

At least Pouncey beat the crap out him. Our players would have just stood around waiting for someone else to do something, like they did when Gronk elbow dropped White. Process

[Doc Brown]

15 minutes ago, JohnnyGold said:

 

I gotta say: I agree with you.
I've watched that video several times and... I just don't see it. I don't see where the complete and total outrage comes from.

To those saying he could have killed him: I mean, he DID hit him in the head, with the leading edge of the helmet, and Rudolph was 100% fine. I'm not going to try to understand the thoughts going through Garret's mind, or his intentions, but is it possible he took some mustard off his swing so as to NOT injure him. Because a lot of the panic this morning seems to be centered on "imagine if he had hit him in the head and killed him!", and, again, he DID hit him in the head. Intentionally. With the most dangerous angle of the weapon. And Rudolph was very obviously fine.

I'm way, way, way more fascinated with the battle lines being drawn so quickly, and how the internet escalates that process. It's 2019 America at it's finest. It's the most egregious thing EVER that needs a HISTORIC suspension and NO ROOM FOR DEBATE. Every week there's a new headline to get our dopamine receptors activated, a new outrage of historic proportions that we will surely still be talking about tomorrow at lunch (we won't).

Anyways, I'm open to changing my mind on my stance, but after reading through this thread I still don't see a justification for anything more than... a 2 game ban? Maybe, MAYBE 4 because the other player was defenseless, in the sense that they were without their helmet.

 

The NFL dished out large sums of money to settle concussion lawsuit with former players.  They've made major rule changes to avoid plays that increase the likelihood of a concussion.  A player took off an opposing player's helmet and struck him in the head with it.  If you think the penalty is only a few games suspension you're not that bright.

[BillsFanNC]

Prediction? Well this is as bad or worse than what Gronk did to Tre White..so if the NFL deems it twice as bad as what Gronk did...then 2 games.

 

He should get at minimum a whole season. 16 games.

[Chaos]

The real question should be: what will his sentence be for assault and battery? 

[H2o]

I think he gets 4 games. This is on the same level as Haynesworth raking his cleat across a guy's exposed head. 

 

On a side note, the rematch in a little over two weeks should be fun to watch. 

Edited November 15, 2019 by H2o

[PatsFanNH]

6 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The NFL is so bizarre and unpredictable with stuff like this.

 

I am going to say four games. It should be the rest of the season. They will screw it up some way. There is zero excuse for it, and it really could have injured Rudolph badly.

 

What say you?

Should be the rest of the year, probably be 4 games.  That said I like the fact Mayfield called Garrett out for acting that way. About time someone in that organization at least tried a t like a leader.

[thenorthremembers]

Rest of the season including any post season games the Browns may or may not make.

[dtgolder]

6 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

He should never play another down ever.

 

Ever.

Agree. He should be tried in the courts for aggravated assault and receive jail time. Lifetime suspension from NFL