row_33 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 gotta hand it to Sonderland, he should be sweating like near-death Elvis for getting totally roasted the last 15 minutes for his fables and lies he is contorting well enough when he has to go off Schiff's teleprompter and script
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 5:54 PM, Foxx said: again, Sondland said Trump never called for a quid pro quo directly. are you being intentionally obtuse here? Expand No, he called for the investigations and wouldn't release the aid without it.
IDBillzFan Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 5:42 PM, jrober38 said: You obviously can't read, or you're selective choosing to ignore that Sondland has said numerous times that the quid pro quo he was aware of involved trading a White House meeting for a public announcement into the Bidens. Expand Folks like you are why the Dems are schitting the bed with these useless hearings. You believe everything you are told. Everything. Unable to think for yourself, you grab whatever flag they give you without thought and wave it enthusiastically without stopping to realize it's not a flag, but a parachute with holes in and that wind you think is at your back is coming from below you. Stop. Breathe. Look at everything again objectively. The truth will be there, but you have to see it for yourself because your party leaders are lying to you. 5
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 He didn't make the connection, lol Ya sure On 11/20/2019 at 6:05 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Expand I called this one! Now its a show trial. Before it was secret star chamber, now show trial. No credibility
Bray Wyatt Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 5:54 PM, jrober38 said: Doesn't have to be funds. Just has to be something of "value". For example, if Zelinsky asked his justice department to investigate Biden or Burisma, and doing that cost any amount of money, that would be an example of value. It's all really easy to follow. Just read the link. Sections B, F and G were all violated. Expand There was nothing of value in the meeting for public announcement quid pro quo. That is why the funds need to be tied to it, and they dont have one
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 “‘I would ask Zelensky to look him in the eye and tell him that once Ukraine’s new justice folks are in place mid-Sept, that Ze should be able to move forward publicly and with confidence on those issues of importance to Potus and to the US,’ Sondland wrote in the Aug. 22 email, using an acronym for president of the United States. ‘Hopefully, that will break the logjam’ on funding.” On 11/20/2019 at 6:08 PM, Bray Wyatt said: There was nothing of value in the meeting for public announcement quid pro quo. That is why the funds need to be tied to it, and they dont have one Expand That's just stupid
jrober38 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 6:04 PM, IDBillzFan said: Folks like you are why the Dems are schitting the bed with these useless hearings. You believe everything you are told. Everything. Unable to think for yourself, you grab whatever flag they give you without thought and wave it enthusiastically without stopping to realize it's not a flag, but a parachute with holes in and that wind you think is at your back is coming from below you. Stop. Breathe. Look at everything again objectively. The truth will be there, but you have to see it for yourself because your party leaders are lying to you. Expand Unable to think for myself? I'm just looking at the testimony that's been given by witnesses under oath. Trump extorted a foreign government for his political gain domestically. In doing so he broke federal campaign finance laws. All of that is obvious at this point. 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 5:44 PM, jrober38 said: No. Others were just not told there was a quid pro quo. They didn't have access to Trump or Guiliani like Sondland had. Expand And the one time Sondland asked Trump directly what he wanted regarding Ukraine, what was the answer he got? 1
jrober38 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 6:08 PM, Bray Wyatt said: There was nothing of value in the meeting for public announcement quid pro quo. That is why the funds need to be tied to it, and they dont have one Expand You can't honestly believe this can you? Funds don't have to be tied to it. Federal law is clear in that regard. Trump broke multiple laws. That's very clear after today's testimony.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 6:10 PM, BillsFanNC said: And the one time Sondland asked Trump directly what he wanted regarding Ukraine, what was the answer he got? Expand That's because Volker was calling it what it was! Of course Trump is going to lie. I mean, my God, Trump lies constantly.
dubs Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 What happened to bribery? I thought that was the focus group tested choice infraction? NPCs received new programming again! Must be NPC programming software 2.0 to have everyone pivot so quickly!! 1
Uncle Joe Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 6:10 PM, BillsFanNC said: And the one time Sondland asked Trump directly what he wanted regarding Ukraine, what was the answer he got? Expand Trump responding to this right now ?
Warren Zevon Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 5:59 PM, njbuff said: Schiff deserves a Stone Cold Stunner. Expand How is Kate today? On 11/20/2019 at 6:10 PM, BillsFanNC said: And the one time Sondland asked Trump directly what he wanted regarding Ukraine, what was the answer he got? Expand *That one time two days after Trump learned the whistle was blown
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 6:13 PM, dubs said: What happened to bribery? I thought that was the focus group tested choice infraction? NPCs received new programming again! Must be NPC programming software 2.0 to have everyone pivot so quickly!! Expand Such conduct becomes bribery only when there is an identifiable exchange between the contribution and official acts, previous or subsequent, and the term quid pro quo denotes such an exchange. Quid pro quo - Wikipedia
njbuff Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 6:13 PM, Gary Busey said: How is Kate today? *That one time two days after Trump learned the whistle was blown Expand Ask Justin.
Bray Wyatt Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 6:11 PM, jrober38 said: You can't honestly believe this can you? Funds don't have to be tied to it. Federal law is clear in that regard. Trump broke multiple laws. That's very clear after today's testimony. Expand Yes it sounds to me like you are looking to force fit a law to fit what you believe to have taken place. A meeting does not have any value, and to think using a meeting as a tool to extort a foreign country is a joke
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