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Interesting political manuever here if Nancy can deny Trump's Senate acquittal victory lap. 

 

The Dems get to say Trump got impeached and they can run on that simple fact.

 

The correct rebuttal that the House didn't send the articles to the Senate for the trial, where Trump would have gotten off--That's not a good soundbyte. 

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2 minutes ago, John Adams said:

Interesting political manuever here if Nancy can deny Trump's Senate acquittal victory lap. 

 

The Dems get to say Trump got impeached and they can run on that simple fact.

 

The correct rebuttal that the House didn't send the articles to the Senate for the trial, where Trump would have gotten off--That's not a good soundbyte. 

 

Nancy has zero to lose by holding the articles in the house until McConnell and Schumer agree to Senate rules for a trial.

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3 minutes ago, John Adams said:

Interesting political manuever here if Nancy can deny Trump's Senate acquittal victory lap. 

 

The Dems get to say Trump got impeached and they can run on that simple fact.

 

The correct rebuttal that the House didn't send the articles to the Senate for the trial, where Trump would have gotten off--That's not a good soundbyte. 

 

What's more, they can say the impeached, but the Senate didn't acquit.  They can "imply guilt" on a technicality.

 

bull####?  Of course.  But it's a layer of bull#### consistent with all the other bull#### Congress has pulled over the past seven years, and it's worked so far.

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She has plenty to lose -- or would if she cared about the country, the constitution, and the republic like she claims. 

 

Holding on to them does nothing but divide, and further erode the confidence in the institutions of power among the people. 

 

So of course you cheer it. Like you cheered on illegal spying and investigating political rivals for three years breathlessly so long as it's your team doing it.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Gary Busey said:

 

Nancy has zero to lose by holding the articles in the house until McConnell and Schumer agree to Senate rules for a trial.

 

Not entirely true.  She's trying to influence Senate procedure, which, if it came down to a court decision, she will lose heavily.  But that's a matter of constitutional procedure that few would care about, much less understand.  

 

And she's not waiting for McConnell and Schumer to agree - she's waiting for rules that are fair to Democrats.  She said so last night.  

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Holding on to them does nothing but divide, and further erode the confidence in the institutions of power among the people. 

 

Sending them to the Senate where McConnell as juror is working hand in hand with Trump the defendant also further erodes said confidence.

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

She has plenty to lose -- or would if she cared about the country, the constitution, and the republic like she claims. 

 

Holding on to them does nothing but divide, and further erode the confidence in the institutions of power among the people. 

 

And she has nothing to lose by that.  Her party's the one sharpening the guillotines.  

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Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Not entirely true.  She's trying to influence Senate procedure, which, if it came down to a court decision, she will lose heavily.  But that's a matter of constitutional procedure that few would care about, much less understand.  

 

And she's not waiting for McConnell and Schumer to agree - she's waiting for rules that are fair to Democrats.  She said so last night.  

 

I don't think Schumer will agree with McConnell until the rules are "fair."

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Just now, Gary Busey said:

 

Sending them to the Senate where McConnell as juror is working hand in hand with Trump the defendant also further erodes said confidence.

 

:lol:

 

If House Democrats didn't want a partisan impeachment, they shouldn't have pursued a partisan impeachment.  You're really blaming McConnell for this?  Again: Democrats set the precedent, Republicans are following it, and Democrats are shocked that their precedent applies to people other than themselves.  :wacko:

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The DNC leadership set the unfair precedent in the House. ***** them.

 

 

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

:lol:

 

If House Democrats didn't want a partisan impeachment, they shouldn't have pursued a partisan impeachment.  You're really blaming McConnell for this?  Again: Democrats set the precedent, Republicans are following it, and Democrats are shocked that their precedent applies to people other than themselves.  :wacko:

 

He has a very small, small, mind. 

 

And it's been broken.

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

And she has nothing to lose by that.  Her party's the one sharpening the guillotines.  

 

True -- but she'll lose her speakership. And the left will lose the House. 

 

Because all they had to do was NOT be crazy -- and they just couldn't do it.

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1 minute ago, Gary Busey said:

 

I don't think Schumer will agree with McConnell until the rules are "fair."

 

Of course.  Fair...for Democrats.  Because that's the Democrats' definition of "fairness."  It's the definition they established ten years ago: "We're driving this bus.  Republicans can come along for the ride, but they have to sit in back."

 

You insist in acting like these actions exist in a vacuum...there's decades of both parties explaining exactly what they intend to do.  Hell, this impeachment is nothing more than revenge for Clinton, using Newt Gingrich's tactics.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

True -- but she'll lose her speakership. And the left will lose the House. 

 

 

 

Did you hear her speak this morning?  She doesn't deserve a speakership.

 

They'll just give it to Robespierre Ocasio-Cortez.

Just now, Gary Busey said:

 

Yup

 

Quote the whole post, #######.

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22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

She has plenty to lose -- or would if she cared about the country, the constitution, and the republic like she claims. 

 

Holding on to them does nothing but divide, and further erode the confidence in the institutions of power among the people. 

 

So of course you cheer it.

 

Link?

 

22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Like you cheered on illegal spying

 

Link?

 

22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

and investigating political rivals for three years breathlessly so long as it's your team doing it.

 

Link?

 

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On 2/16/2017 at 6:25 AM, Benjamin Franklin said:

This topic is leaking into 20 threads.

 

My question now echoes from Watergate, "What did the president know and when did he know it?"

 

Also want more info on what Flynn discussed and what is the nature of the Trump campaign contacts with Russian intel. I might have contacted Russian intel when I picked up my rental car today.

 

+100s of pages, over multiple threads, of you and your alts sneering at the very idea that it was a crooked investigation, led by a cabal of high ranking DOJ/FBI/CIA officials. 

 

You were proven 100% wrong. Every step of the way. 

 

"What did the president know and when did he know it" -- echoing Watergate. 

 

You're a clown.

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24 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

What's more, they can say the impeached, but the Senate didn't acquit.  They can "imply guilt" on a technicality.

 

Yup. Politically shrewd. Scummy, but shrewd. 

 

And they can add to the articles when Trump does the next dumb thing. 

 

Very ugly way to politic in the same way messing with the Garland nomination was dirty pool. Both set a very bad precedent. 

 

 

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