The Sham Impeachment Inquiry & Whistleblower Saga: A Race to Get Ahead of the OIG

[Uncle Joe]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I will.    ?

Like a moth to a flame ?

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Only the out of touch DNC could come up with this idea... what's more boring and off putting for the average American to listen to than a bunch of self aggrandizing bureaucrats?

 

A bunch of self aggrandizing lawyers. 

 

No one will watch this.  

 

Why didn't they just hire CNN to testify?

 

Hell, Noah Feldberg's a Bloomberg opinion columnist.  How many federal election laws and regulations are they breaking with that invitation?

 

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, Hedge said:

 

 

 

Noah Feldman: Constitutional "scholar" who specializes in Islamic Legal Studies and admires sharia law.

 

Pamela Karlan: "Voting rights" expert.

 

Michael Gerhardt: Actually seems to have some qualifications to testify. Expert in relationship between Presidents and Congress, including writing treatises on impeachment.

 

Jonathan Turley: TV Liberal pundit.

 

Should be a good schiffshow.

[Tiberius]

Hmmmm...

 

© Getty

An indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s personal attorney, wants to give congressional impeachment investigators access to materials that were seized during his arrest earlier this year, his lawyer said Monday at a court hearing. 

A lawyer for Lev Parnas asked a federal court in Manhattan for the materials to be released to the Democratic-led House committees, according to ABC News. The outlet previously reported that lawmakers who are helping to lead the impeachment inquiry into Trump are already in possession of recordings and photographs from Parnas.

The materials were seized when the Soviet-born associate of Giuliani was arrested for allegedly violating campaign finance law. Parnas and another Giuliani associate, Igor Fruman, were arrested on Oct. 9 at Dulles International Airport.

[Koko78]

37 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

Oh no! They've really got Trump *THIS* time!!!!111

[keepthefaith]

3 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Oh no! They've really got Trump *THIS* time!!!!111

 

The number of times easily has 4 digits by now. 

[B-Man]

Back to the impeachment thread:

 

THE POLITICS OF IMPEACHMENT

 

 

 

WHAT, ARE THEY INSANE? Psychiatrists Organize Campaign to Declare Trump ‘Dangerous,’ Back Impeachment.

 

 

 

 

ROGER SIMON: Pelosi and Company Hightail It to Warming Conference as Impeachment Flounders.

[DC Tom]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Back to the impeachment thread:

 

THE POLITICS OF IMPEACHMENT

 

 

 

WHAT, ARE THEY INSANE? Psychiatrists Organize Campaign to Declare Trump ‘Dangerous,’ Back Impeachment.

 

 

That is shockingly irresponsible.

[Koko78]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

That is shockingly irresponsible.

 

Not to mention completely unethical.

[DC Tom]

2 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Not to mention completely unethical.

 

What I meant.

 

But one of them works for the CIA.  Surprise, surprise.

[B-Man]

TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME BREEDS PROFESSIONAL MALPRACTICE

 

A sign of the times, that historians one day will puzzle over: Psychiatrists Organize Campaign to Declare Trump ‘Dangerous,’ Back Impeachment. The campaign involves the usual suspects:

Psychiatrists with the World Mental Health Coalition are soliciting signatures in a campaign to support the impeachment of President Donald Trump predicated on claims that he is mentally unstable.

Or, put another way, on the ground that he is a Republican.

In an email forwarded to PJ Media, three psychiatrists with the coalition ask other psychiatrists to sign on to a petition to the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee to include a statement on Trump’s supposed mental instability into the official record of the impeachment inquiry.

Dr. Bandy Lee, a forensic psychiatrist at Yale School of medicine; Dr. Jerrold Post, a psychiatrist and political psychologist who founded the CIA’s Center for Analysis of Personality and Political Behavior; and Dr. John Zinner, a clinical professor in the Psychiatry Department of the George Washington University School of Medicine, wrote the petition and statement condemning Trump.

These Democratic Party activists have been at it for a while, so far without success:

The pro-impeachment statement is one in a long line of psychiatric attacks on Trump, the petition explains. “A group of us first outlined our concerns at a conference at Yale School of Medicine in April 2017, when the majority of the public believed the president was ‘settling in.’ This was followed by a public-service book, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President, which many say predicted the course of this presidency. Thousands of others joined us to form a professional association known as the World Mental Health Coalition.”

Whatever. These people have never met the president, and have no basis to offer a “diagnosis” of his mental health. I believe they are violating recognized standards in their profession by issuing groundless opinions of this sort.

 

Moreover, they have a hard time keeping their story straight. Is Trump a warmonger, or a Putin stooge who will let Russia rampage over Eastern Europe? Or is he neither, but an America-first president who wants to end long-term conflicts in places like Afghanistan? If Trump is “unstable,” why has he hewed consistently to such a coherent, and successful, set of policy preferences? If he is a threat to the Republic, why has his administration ushered in unprecedented levels of employment and income, and especially benefited minority populations, while maintaining peace abroad?

If these “mental health professionals” were as successful as President Trump, they would have something better to do than carry water for the intellectually bankrupt Democratic Party.

 

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[IDBillzFan]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME BREEDS PROFESSIONAL MALPRACTICE

 

What a bunch of batschitt crazy idiots.

 

Do they geniunely  believe this will lead to anything other than further belief that the Dems have completely lost their freaking minds? How big of an effin' idiot do you have to be to think, for one moment, that THIS approach is a good idea?

 

Dumber than schitt.

[Deranged Rhino]

https://www.axios.com/richard-burr-ukraine-trump-clinton-meddling-d301b084-c4ef-4ca0-9583-3b017636741d.html

[/dev/null]

9 hours ago, B-Man said:

WHAT, ARE THEY INSANE? Psychiatrists Organize Campaign to Declare Trump ‘Dangerous,’ Back Impeachment.

 

8 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

That is shockingly irresponsible.

 

8 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

Not to mention completely unethical.

 

And in violation of the American Psychiatric Association's Principles of Medical Ethics, Section 7 (also known as The Goldwater Rule)

 

On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule

 

But this time it's okay, because #orangemanbad

 

[dubs]

4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

https://www.axios.com/richard-burr-ukraine-trump-clinton-meddling-d301b084-c4ef-4ca0-9583-3b017636741d.html

wait: axios said it was “debunked”. Nothing to see here I guess.  ? 
 

Why it matters: Republicans are using a debunkedconspiracy theory that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 presidential election to justify President Trump's decision to freeze congressionally approved aid to the country.

[Tiberius]

10 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

Oh no! They've really got Trump *THIS* time!!!!111

He's a slippery dick for sure! You guys love this criminal 

38 minutes ago, dubs said:

wait: axios said it was “debunked”. Nothing to see here I guess.  ? 
 

Why it matters: Republicans are using a debunkedconspiracy theory that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 presidential election to justify President Trump's decision to freeze congressionally approved aid to the country.

Lies within lies..,Ukraine claim is Russian propaganda and the argument Trump held up the aid for

legitamate purposes is just totally dishonest 

[SoCal Deek]

36 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He's a slippery dick for sure! You guys love this criminal 

Lies within lies..,Ukraine claim is Russian propaganda and the argument Trump held up the aid for

legitamate purposes is just totally dishonest 

READ THE TRANSCRIPT 

[RochesterRob]

37 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He's a slippery dick for sure! You guys love this criminal 

Lies within lies..,Ukraine claim is Russian propaganda and the argument Trump held up the aid for

legitamate purposes is just totally dishonest 

  Slippery dick?  I guess that we all know what is on your mind this morning.  Have fun with your socks.

[snafu]

2 hours ago, /dev/null said:

 

 

 

And in violation of the American Psychiatric Association's Principles of Medical Ethics, Section 7 (also known as The Goldwater Rule)

 

On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule

 

But this time it's okay, because #orangemanbad

 

 

Every rule has an exception.

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

14 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Why didn't they just hire CNN to testify?

 

Hell, Noah Feldberg's a Bloomberg opinion columnist.  How many federal election laws and regulations are they breaking with that invitation?

 

 

...perhaps a real conundrum if it's an OATH proceeding??..............