3rdnlng Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, John Adams said: The above edit is what you mean. I would like teachers to teach my child how to think, not what to think. I like Ayn Rand too, but there's a practical side to living in a community. Yes, our children should be taught how to think along with a true history of the USA. I don't believe in tearing down statues and turning our founding fathers into nefarious people. Our republic is special and to lessen its status in the world is allowing the liberal teacher unions to make us comparable to the weak socialistic countries of Europe.
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, John Adams said: I like Ayn Rand too, but there's a practical side to living in a community. Strawman. There are solutions which don’t include the protection of a global caste system which preys upon the common man. In fact, tight knit communities are central to those solutions. 1
Tiberius Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Yes, our children should be taught how to think along with a true history of the USA. I don't believe in tearing down statues and turning our founding fathers into nefarious people. Our republic is special and to lessen its status in the world is allowing the liberal teacher unions to make us comparable to the weak socialistic countries of Europe. I’d love to see you teach a lesson on slavery.
row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 I miss Ayn, she was a fun character on the talk shows an Economics prof used to do a re-enactment of the dialogue of Ayn and her sex slave
DC Tom Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: I’d love to see you teach a lesson on slavery. I''d love to see you take a lesson on goddamn anything. 2 2
row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 asking "could you imagine having that demand you to [for modesty sake I cannot finish this sentence...]"
John Adams Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Yes, our children should be taught how to think along with a true history of the USA. I don't believe in tearing down statues and turning our founding fathers into nefarious people. Our republic is special and to lessen its status in the world is allowing the liberal teacher unions to make us comparable to the weak socialistic countries of Europe. There is no "true history" of the USA. The founding fathers were people. Great, and imperfect. The more you adhere to a top down True History, the more you sound like the totalitarian countries you claim to dislike.
row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, John Adams said: There is no "true history" of the USA. The founding fathers were people. Great, and imperfect. The more you adhere to a top down True History, the more you sound like the totalitarian countries you claim to dislike. what the bleep????
jrober38 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Localism and volunteerism. Local government is more responsive to the needs and wants of its citizens because it’s leaders reside in the same neighborhoods and live under similar conditions, and face direct personal consequences for corruption. Roads existed before the income tax. Fire and police departments existed before the income tax. The military existed before the income tax. People will pay for things they find value in without the threat of being locked in cages by men with guns. Rule of thumb: This is a total pipe dream in 2019. Social services would be completely gutted to the point where they'd be useless. 1
John Adams Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Strawman. Sounds like I hit the strawman where it hurt. 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: There are solutions which that don’t include the protection of a global caste system which that preys upon the common man. In fact, tight knit communities are central to those solutions. 1 minute ago, row_33 said: what the bleep???? He's the one advocating for teaching the one True History, not me.
Deranged Rhino Posted November 27, 2019 Author Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: Most Scandinavian Countries. Maybe a few other European countries. As for why, that's an extremely complicated answer. The US is unique in a variety of reasons (guns, healthcare, military spending, etc). Many staples of the US identity aren't found in most parts of the developed world. Horseshit. You're just proving you don't understand how those countries work if you don't think they're run by "elites".
DC Tom Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Horseshit. You're just proving you don't understand how those countries work if you don't think they're run by "elites". Really? No one's going to point out that people complaining about Trump's being a monarch are extolling the virtues of Scandinavian monarchies? 2 1
3rdnlng Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, John Adams said: There is no "true history" of the USA. The founding fathers were people. Great, and imperfect. The more you adhere to a top down True History, the more you sound like the totalitarian countries you claim to dislike. Ah, now I remember why I got away from discussing anything with you. You twist what other people say and misrepresent their arguments. Yes, our founding fathers were imperfect people but tearing them down is nothing but an attempt to belittle our constitution. 1
Tiberius Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I''d love to see you take a lesson on goddamn anything. Like on punctuation? “””””””””
Deranged Rhino Posted November 27, 2019 Author Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Ah, now I remember why I got away from discussing anything with you. You twist what other people say and misrepresent their arguments. Yes, our founding fathers were imperfect people but tearing them down is nothing but an attempt to belittle our constitution. Correct. That's his whole schtick through multiple alts. He's a clown. Nothing more.
Tiberius Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Yes, history is in the eye of the beholder.
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: This is a total pipe dream in 2019. Social services would be completely gutted to the point where they'd be useless. As they should be. There are a very small amount of people who are unable to work and provide for themselves. The overwhelming majority of individuals on public assistance are there because they choose not to be productive, and have made a series of very poor decisions because the system in place has enabled them to do so. With the removal of the welfare state private charities are more than able to service the needs of those who would remain behind. The system, as it exists, manufactures intergenerational poverty by creating a culture of normalized dependence. This is an extreme cruelty, and it is purposeful, as this reality: soft slavery under the guise of “help”, is a necessary part of the elite’s ploy to keep common man subjugated under their yoke. 1
Tiberius Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Im visiting Harpers Ferry Friday. John Brown, freedom fighter or terrorist? @DC Tom
3rdnlng Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Like on punctuation? “”””””””” You probably don't need a lesson on punctuation or spelling. If you weren't so careless and lacking of pride in your work you wouldn't be always ***** up. Use spellcheck and take a peek of your work before posting. Don't be a dumbshit. 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Im visiting Harpers Ferry Friday. John Brown, freedom fighter or terrorist? @DC Tom Somehow I believe you when you say you are visiting a fairy.
Tiberius Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: You probably don't need a lesson on punctuation or spelling. If you weren't so careless and lacking of pride in your work you wouldn't be always ***** up. Use spellcheck and take a peek of your work before posting. Don't be a dumbshit. It’s the no pride in my work here thing. You mean “a peek at your work”?
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