DC Tom Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Can we use this as evidence to impeach them of abusing their power for political gain? 2
row_33 Posted November 26, 2019 Posted November 26, 2019 one can weigh the wisdom in trying an impeachment fiasco based solely on your party's rigged polling numbers
Doc Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Tiberius said: Lol, he's on tape telling about how he got rid of a corrupt prosecutor. The right wing propaganda machine can say anything and you'll believe it. Oh, the hypocrisy! 1
Deranged Rhino Posted November 27, 2019 Author Posted November 27, 2019 No one could have seen that coming... (Oh wait, pretty much everyone here did) 2 2
dubs Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No one could have seen that coming... (Oh wait, pretty much everyone here did) for the smartest people to walk the earth, the left elites are really getting outwitted over and over again by the “dumbest” president in our history. ??♂️??♂️?♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️ 6
jrober38 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: The United States invests more into education than most countries on the planet. The OECD reports that in 2018 the US spent $12,800 per student on elementary and secondary education, 35% more than the average OECD country. The US spent $30,000 at the post-secondary level which was 93% more than the average OECD country. Spending does not create better results. Take a look around the world not just today, but throughout history. The entire purpose of government is to protect the ruling elite from the toiling underclass. It’s why the elite not only allow governments to exist, but insist that they do. If you want to take an honest dive into this, I’ll gladly go with you. And there’s the rub. If you build a power structure that is a monopoly of force it will *always* be co-opted by those who will use the power you have embued the structure with towards their own ends. It’s the reason they seek the office in most cases. Libraries full of history and philosophy have been written on this subject, and it always turns out the same. The entire purpose of the state is, and has always been, to protect the interests of the ruling elite. It is, in fact, the only thing the state can be used for, as it’s very existence requires a ruling elite. As Tom says, your thoughts on the matter aren't congruent. I agree with what you're saying. I'm just pointing out that there are plenty of developed countries around the world where elites don't hold as much power as they do in the US.
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: I agree with what you're saying. I'm just pointing out that there are plenty of developed countries around the world where elites don't hold as much power as they do in the US. Can you name a few, and then in each case (not a comprehensive list by any means), can you explain the “why”? 1 1
B-Man Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Are House Democrats Getting Cold Feet? WashPost Tweets 99 times about Trump and Impeachment in One Day. . 1
Doc Brown Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 12 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Sanders and Warren are political elites, they are just the leftist kind wanting to put a stranglehold on other people's money and spread around the benefit to what fits their point of view. They are the worst kind of elites. Like poor people, single mothers, uninsured, the VA, and the disabled. Just horrible people. 10 hours ago, row_33 said: one can weigh the wisdom in trying an impeachment fiasco based solely on your party's rigged polling numbers Clinton never had the support for impeachment that Trump has right now. Plus, I believe the PPP acronym involves polls.
John Adams Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Poor education is caused by the liberal influence on educators. Our teachers and administrations should get back to the basics such as the 3 r's and quit trying to revise history. They are deliberately erasing the things that have made our country great and eliminating our culture that recognizes our past. Education starts at home. Always. When I hear anti-American sentiment or apologetic teaching for being the best country on earth, I invoke dialog with my kid so she can hear another side. Blaming teachers will always be secondary. Edited November 27, 2019 by John Adams 1
row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Like poor people, single mothers, uninsured, the VA, and the disabled. Just horrible people. Clinton never had the support for impeachment that Trump has right now. Plus, I believe the PPP acronym involves polls. support isn’t the issue, criminal and civil justice is not to be meted out by opinion polls Clinton perjured himself before a grand jury he conspired with his lawyers to lie and when the jig was clearly up he continued to lie that alone was righteously worthy of impeachment, not conviction Edited November 27, 2019 by row_33 1
Foxx Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Adams said: Education starts at home. Always. When I hear anti-American sentiment or apologetic teaching for being the best country on earth, I invoke dialog with my kid so she can hear another side. Blaming teachers will always be secondary. blaming the ***** who put poison in your ears is secondary. yeah, okay.... good luck with that. you're an idiot. Edited November 27, 2019 by Foxx
dubs Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: blaming the ***** who put poison in your ears is secondary. yeah, okay.... good luck with that. you're an idiot. imagine actually thinking there is anything in the Constitution that gives the federal government power to set up a department of education and a system that essentially forces most people to send their kids into such a terrible a corrupt education system? Yet most people in charge of the system exclude their own children from it? Government Schools yet most government officials don’t send their kids there. 1
Teddy KGB Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Can we get that Facebook fact checker to chime in on everything jrober posts ??♂️??♂️?
TPS Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) https://consortiumnews.com/2019/11/27/scott-ritter-the-whistleblower-and-the-politicization-of-intelligence/ @Deranged Rhino a very detailed description of the whistleblower’s role throughout.... Edited November 27, 2019 by TPS 1 1
John Adams Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Foxx said: blaming the ***** who put poison in your ears is secondary. yeah, okay.... good luck with that. you're an idiot. If you don't like the state of children's education, the teachers are not blameless, but look to the parents first. If you don't get that, you don't get personal responsibility and you don't get parenting. I'm invested in my child's education. Not all of it has been perfect, and when it's failed, I get involved. Blaming the "system" is a weakass copout. Punto final. Be a whiner or be a fixer. Edited November 27, 2019 by John Adams 1
dubs Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, John Adams said: If you don't like the state of children's education, the teachers are not blameless, but look to the parents first. If you don't get that, you don't get personal responsibility and you don't get parenting. I'm invested in my child's education. Not all of it has been perfect, and when it's failed, I get involved. Blaming the "system" is a weakass copout. Punto final. Be a whiner or be a fixer. This makes no sense. No one is saying that parents have no responsibility. It’s a separate issue. Kids in government schools spend at least 6 hours a day, 5 days a week, for 9 months in these schools. Taxpayers pay hundred of thousands of dollars on taxes to fund these government schools over the course of a lifetime. To say that parents should just focus on themselves and get more involved is a weird attempt at deflecting from these facts.
3rdnlng Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, John Adams said: Education starts at home. Always. When I hear anti-American sentiment or apologetic teaching for being the best country on earth, I invoke dialog with my kid so she can hear another side. Blaming teachers will always be secondary. I don't expect to do battle with the teachers I pay to tell the truth.
Nanker Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 And most adults in this country steep themselves in the liberal media marinade when they get home from work. It's an incessant battery of systemically infused mental-poison cocktails designed to keep the herd going in one direction... forward! 2
jrober38 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Can you name a few, and then in each case (not a comprehensive list by any means), can you explain the “why”? Most Scandinavian Countries. Maybe a few other European countries. As for why, that's an extremely complicated answer. The US is unique in a variety of reasons (guns, healthcare, military spending, etc). Many staples of the US identity aren't found in most parts of the developed world. Edited November 27, 2019 by jrober38
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