row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:23 PM, Nanker said: And most adults in this country steep themselves in the liberal media marinade when they get home from work. It's an incessant battery of systemically infused mental-poison cocktails designed to keep the herd going in one direction... forward! Expand i still like Led Zeppelin into my 50s.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:05 PM, dubs said: This makes no sense. No one is saying that parents have no responsibility. It’s a separate issue. Kids in government schools spend at least 6 hours a day, 5 days a week, for 9 months in these schools. Taxpayers pay hundred of thousands of dollars on taxes to fund these government schools over the course of a lifetime. To say that parents should just focus on themselves and get more involved is a weird attempt at deflecting from these facts. Expand As opposed to what? Have you ever paid for day care? Schools offer so much to communities and kids lives. Sports, socialization, the learning, schools are great. Public education is one of the best parts of our society. Most parents are very thankful for the school systems they live near. On 11/27/2019 at 2:17 PM, 3rdnlng said: I don't expect to do battle with the teachers I pay to tell the truth. Expand Do you believe in the Big Bang theory and evolutionary biology?
jrober38 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:05 PM, dubs said: This makes no sense. No one is saying that parents have no responsibility. It’s a separate issue. Kids in government schools spend at least 6 hours a day, 5 days a week, for 9 months in these schools. Taxpayers pay hundred of thousands of dollars on taxes to fund these government schools over the course of a lifetime. To say that parents should just focus on themselves and get more involved is a weird attempt at deflecting from these facts. Expand Lots of people pay lots of taxes for things they don't use or don't believe in. That's just part of living in a civilized country.
3rdnlng Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:33 PM, Tiberius said: As opposed to what? Have you ever paid for day care? Schools offer so much to communities and kids lives. Sports, socialization, the learning, schools are great. Public education is one of the best parts of our society. Most parents are very thankful for the school systems they live near. Do you believe in the Big Bang theory and evolutionary biology? Expand Do you believe those times when you "feel pretty" that you should be able to visit the girl's room?
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) On 11/27/2019 at 2:40 PM, jrober38 said: Lots of people pay lots of taxes for things they don't use or don't believe in. That's just part of living in a civilized country. Expand No it’s not. The country was quite civilized before the advent of the Federal Reserve and the income tax (1913 and 1914 respectively, and non-coincidentally). More civilized, in fact, as the nation wasn’t plunging itself into extremely costly (in terms of both lives and real wealth) wars on other continents in order to funnel wealth into the pockets of banking and business elites. That “tax is the cost of cost of civilization” is a lie taught to the toiling masses in order that they believe they are dependent of those elites who casually rob them and toss their lives away to enrich themselves. Edited November 27, 2019 by TakeYouToTasker 4 1
row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:17 PM, 3rdnlng said: I don't expect to do battle with the teachers I pay to tell the truth. Expand kids don't pay attention to what the teacher says well, the Hillary's do....
3rdnlng Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:56 PM, row_33 said: kids don't pay attention to what the teacher says well, the Hillary's do.... Expand Then we should eliminate school.
row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:59 PM, 3rdnlng said: Then we should eliminate school. Expand . it's an interesting set of concepts on how to best develop a mind that has a chance at learning something i haven't seen a fool-proof method the best seems to be being a millionaire and waiting out your silly son until he decides to buckle down, then you get him into law school and a top job when he graduates
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:56 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: No it’s not. The country was quite civilized before the advent of the Federal Reserve and the income tax (1913 and 1914 respectively, and non-coincidentally). More civilized, in fact, as the nation wasn’t plunging itself into extremely costly (in terms of both lives and real wealth) wars on other continents in order to funnel wealth into the pockets of banking and business elites. That “tax is the cost of cost of civilization” is a lie taught to the toiling masses in order that they believe they are dependent of those elites who casually rob them and toss their lives away to enrich themselves. Expand More civilized? They were lynching black people in the south, race wars, labor wars, women without the vote or rights and conservatives running around screaming we need to outlaw alcohol because things were so bad. Stupid point on your part
jrober38 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:56 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: No it’s not. The country was quite civilized before the advent of the Federal Reserve and the income tax (1913 and 1914 respectively, and non-coincidentally). More civilized, in fact, as the nation wasn’t plunging itself into extremely costly (in terms of both lives and real wealth) wars on other continents in order to funnel wealth into the pockets of banking and business elites. That “tax is the cost of cost of civilization” is a lie taught to the toiling masses in order that they believe they are dependent of those elites who casually rob them and toss their lives away to enrich themselves. Expand How do you pay for any social services without taxes? Who builds the roads and bridges? Who pays the fire department and police? Who pays the military? Who builds and maintains sewers and waste removal?
John Adams Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:17 PM, 3rdnlng said: I don't expect to do battle with the teachers I pay to tell the your truth. Expand The above edit is what you mean. I would like teachers to teach my child how to think, not what to think. On 11/27/2019 at 2:56 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: No it’s not. The country was quite civilized before the advent of the Federal Reserve and the income tax (1913 and 1914 respectively, and non-coincidentally). More civilized, in fact, as the nation wasn’t plunging itself into extremely costly (in terms of both lives and real wealth) wars on other continents in order to funnel wealth into the pockets of banking and business elites. That “tax is the cost of cost of civilization” is a lie taught to the toiling masses in order that they believe they are dependent of those elites who casually rob them and toss their lives away to enrich themselves. Expand I like Ayn Rand too, but there's a practical side to living in a community.
Keukasmallies Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 3:02 PM, Tiberius said: More civilized? They were lynching black people in the south, race wars, labor wars, women without the vote or rights and conservatives running around screaming we need to outlaw alcohol because things were so bad. Stupid point on your part Expand Thankfully we've replaced that time in history with the Bloombergs', Jackson Lees', Pelosis', amd Waters' of today's pollitical landscape, eh? 1
row_33 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 3:10 PM, Keukasmallies said: Thankfully we've replaced that time in history with the Bloombergs', Jackson Lees', Pelosis', amd Waters' of today's pollitical landscape, eh? Expand the best time to be alive is right now, and people still gripe and complain all the time
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:24 PM, jrober38 said: Most Scandinavian Countries. Maybe a few other European countries. As for why, that's an extremely complicated answer. The US is unique in a variety of reasons (guns, healthcare, military spending, etc). Many staples of the US identity aren't found in most parts of the developed world. Expand I think your perception is being clouded by a familiarity gap. IE, you’re more familiar with the machinations of the elites in the US, and are therefore working off assumptions that these other nations aren’t just as steeped (in many cases more steeped, simply because the History of Europe has produced untold dynastic wealth because of Monarchy and it’s longer history) in elites as the US. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 3:05 PM, jrober38 said: How do you pay for any social services without taxes? Who builds the roads and bridges? Who pays the fire department and police? Who pays the military? Who builds and maintains sewers and waste removal? Expand We are the government!
John Adams Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 2:24 PM, jrober38 said: Most Scandinavian Countries. Expand that lack diversity. 49 minutes ago, jrober38 said: As for why, that's an extremely complicated answer. The US is unique in a variety of reasons... Expand including diversity. Not just talking about skin color here with respect to diversity. Very few countries have what we have. (India laughs at our "diversity.") 2
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 3:10 PM, Keukasmallies said: Thankfully we've replaced that time in history with the Bloombergs', Jackson Lees', Pelosis', amd Waters' of today's pollitical landscape, eh? Expand Things are a heck of a lot better than a hundred years ago. Not sure why the modern Democratic Party scares you so much. Huge majorities of the elderly today owe their easy lives to Democratic Party policies. A hundred years ago, the elderly lived shorter poorer lives. Now they are one of the wealthiest groups in society. And black people can now now move into the middle class, thanks largely to the civil rights movement.
DC Tom Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) On 11/27/2019 at 3:11 PM, row_33 said: the best time to be alive is right now, and people still gripe and complain all the time Expand Little known fact there, Sammy...the worst year to be alive has been scientifically shown to be 536 AD. [/Claven] Edit: yes, you laugh. But google it. Edited November 27, 2019 by DC Tom 2
John Adams Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 3:11 PM, row_33 said: the best time to be alive is right now, and people still gripe and complain all the time Expand I've been mocked for making this point time and again. Good luck.
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 3:05 PM, jrober38 said: How do you pay for any social services without taxes? Who builds the roads and bridges? Who pays the fire department and police? Who pays the military? Who builds and maintains sewers and waste removal? Expand Localism and volunteerism. Local government is more responsive to the needs and wants of its citizens because it’s leaders reside in the same neighborhoods and live under similar conditions, and face direct personal consequences for corruption. Roads existed before the income tax. Fire and police departments existed before the income tax. The military existed before the income tax. People will pay for things they find value in without the threat of being locked in cages by men with guns. Rule of thumb:
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