BuffaloBaumer Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Let me start by saying that if you love Josh Allen and his play so far, no need to respond here. This is for people like myself that want a QB with no accuracy issues and that can be a starter for a couple years as to not waste a relatively good defense. With all of the back-up qbs emerging into starters, there must be some vets that will be available as a stop-gap. What might that list look like as I don't think anyone in the front office will admit that Allen is not the guy.....until end of next year. Barkley Minshew Newton Bridgewater (probably no chance) Big Ben (if Rudolph continues to look like the real deal) Winston 1 1
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Stick with Allen and Barkley. I am increasingly nervous re Allen but he needs another year and Barkley is very serviceable. 2
oldmanfan Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Let me start by saying that if you love Josh Allen and his play so far, no need to respond here. This is for people like myself that want a QB with no accuracy issues and that can be a starter for a couple years as to not waste a relatively good defense. With all of the back-up qbs emerging into starters, there must be some vets that will be available as a stop-gap. What might that list look like as I don't think anyone in the front office will admit that Allen is not the guy.....until end of next year. Barkley Minshew Newton Bridgewater (probably no chance) Big Ben (if Rudolph continues to look like the real deal) Winston There is no QB in the world that has no accuracy issues, and the ones you intimate Allen has are overblown. Allen needs to continue to progress in reading defenses and knowing what his best choices are pre-snap. 5
plenzmd1 Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Let me start by saying that if you love Josh Allen and his play so far, no need to respond here. This is for people like myself that want a QB with no accuracy issues and that can be a starter for a couple years as to not waste a relatively good defense. With all of the back-up qbs emerging into starters, there must be some vets that will be available as a stop-gap. What might that list look like as I don't think anyone in the front office will admit that Allen is not the guy.....until end of next year. Barkley Minshew Newton Bridgewater (probably no chance) Big Ben (if Rudolph continues to look like the real deal) Winston I am no Allen fan, but they aint getting rid of him next year, no mattter what happens from here on out. That being said The only guy on that list i would like is Minshew...but what cha ya willing to give up to get him? BTW, what Barkley ya talking about ? Matt? Now, i have always liked Matt Moore. Fitz is still getting it done to
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Josh is going no where but scout the CFL over that list
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Actually Fitzpatrick would be a great backup/mentor for Allen. 1 1
msw2112 Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) The problem with Fitz is that he comes in everywhere, the starter struggles or gets hurt, Fitz comes in and lights it up for a few games (Fitzmagic), you have a QB controversy and it screws up the team chemistry and/or a young guy isn't getting the reps he needs to develop. It's not Fitz's fault, but that's just how it plays out, time and time (and time) again. I am a huge Fitzpatrick fan, but I don't see this plan working out for the Bills. Edited November 11, 2019 by msw2112 1
Plano Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Are we forgetting about Andy Dalton? He'll be the started in Buffalo next year, sig it. 1
BuffaloRebound Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Yes. I’d go get Dalton. He doesn’t necessarily spell the end for Allen, but he can get you to the playoffs if the lightbulb never goes on for Allen. At a minimum, Bills need an upgrade to Barkley.
bigK14094 Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 I still think Allen will make it.......when I think of how bad JP Losman was, and how bad EJ Manuel was......Allen is better than either by a lot at this point. So, cool your jets, Allen is here for at least two more years beyond this....and, by then, we will know. I shudder to think how long it took Kurt Warmer (two super bowl rings) to mature...including time in the infamous arena league. What I am saying is Allen has all the tools.....JP didn't have the head, EJ didn't have the arm and had a poor presence on the field.....Josh seems to have avoided those problems. Yes, he is still working on his mechanics and learning the pro game....but, I think, he will progress. He didn't play in the SEC or the Big Ten....he played at Wyoming...and, has a little further to come than SEC/ACC QB's imho.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: There is no QB in the world that has no accuracy issues, and the ones you intimate Allen has are overblown. Allen needs to continue to progress in reading defenses and knowing what his best choices are pre-snap. Allen has accuracy issues. A lot of passes of his that are caught, require contortions by the receiver.
GregPersons Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Josh Allen in one QB room. Tyrod & Fitz split the first three quarters down the middle. Josh comes in for the 4th. Three men combined into one reliably decent QB
bills6969 Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 What a dumb post. Let’s get Allen some playmakers (I.e., Ceedee Lamb) on offense and buildup the oline before we judgements on Allen. He needs to be more consistent with his passing game ( especially long balls) but he has all the intangibles that you want in a QB (Smart, toughness, leadership) which is not what we could say for most of the QBs weve had over the years. 2 2 6
Alphadawg7 Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) So a QB with all the tools, drive, traits and leadership to succeed who has a winning record as a starter on teams devoid of offensive help is already a bust to some of you? He needs weapons and a better OC. Brees still sucked at this stage of his career and Allen isn’t sucking. He’s got lots to work on and keep developing, but he still is dealing with an inconsistent OL and below average offensive weapons around him with an OC who isn’t putting him in the best positions to succeed. Allen has more to prove, but he also is far from peaked too. This thread is pointless, 0% chance he isn’t the top dog going into next season. 4 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Allen has accuracy issues. A lot of passes of his that are caught, require contortions by the receiver. See every QB ever. Allen’s biggest problem is our receivers suck at making those catches and adjustments. Edited November 11, 2019 by Alphadawg7 4 1 5
ALLEN1QB Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Buffalo would be crazy to not try and bring Cam Newton in he's basically Josh Allen but more accurate
The Jokeman Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Let me start by saying that if you love Josh Allen and his play so far, no need to respond here. This is for people like myself that want a QB with no accuracy issues and that can be a starter for a couple years as to not waste a relatively good defense. With all of the back-up qbs emerging into starters, there must be some vets that will be available as a stop-gap. What might that list look like as I don't think anyone in the front office will admit that Allen is not the guy.....until end of next year. Barkley Minshew Newton Bridgewater (probably no chance) Big Ben (if Rudolph continues to look like the real deal) Winston No love for Ryan Tannehill that doing good in Tennessee?
The Jokeman Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, ALLEN1QB said: Buffalo would be crazy to not try and bring Cam Newton in he's basically Josh Allen but more accurate I can't see Cam wanted to go somewhere and be a backup, at the very least he'd want to compete to start. I could see him with the Dolphins, Bengals, Raiders, Chargers (pending Rivers), Broncos, Redskins, Bears or Buccaneers before coming here.
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Let me start by saying that if you love Josh Allen and his play so far, no need to respond here. This is for people like myself that want a QB with no accuracy issues and that can be a starter for a couple years as to not waste a relatively good defense. With all of the back-up qbs emerging into starters, there must be some vets that will be available as a stop-gap. What might that list look like as I don't think anyone in the front office will admit that Allen is not the guy.....until end of next year. Barkley Minshew Newton Bridgewater (probably no chance) Big Ben (if Rudolph continues to look like the real deal) Winston So are you admitting you are done with Allen; because we already know you were never on board? 1
gobills1212 Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 This fantasyland must be the biggest bummer ever. Here i thought they were supposed to be fun and care free!
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