Hebert19 Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 Personally I dont see our front 4 do enough in the pass rush but I just read this and maybe the lack of sacks isn't the only story. They must be getting consistent pressure. Buffalo Bills at Cleveland Browns (-3) Pick: Buffalo Bills +3 Buffalo's pass rush should be the difference here. According to Pro Football Focus, Buffalo has the fifth-best pass rushing unit of 2019 and Cleveland sports the 20th best pass-blocking unit. Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield, meanwhile, sees his passer rating drop from 83.0 in a clean pocket to 40.8 when facing pass pressure this year. For comparison, a player will get a 39.6 passer rating for throwing the ball into the dirt. The favored Browns, in general, are a hot mess, while the Bills are 6-2. Who knew.
Koko78 Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 They may not get a ton of sacks, but the D-Line regularly generates a lot of disruption and pressure. 3
BfloBillsFan Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 I thought for the first 3 games the pressure was noticeable. They also knocked down a lot of passes at the Line of scrimmage
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 The Bills don’t really get after the QB as much as they collapse the pocket... there’s never a DE flying off the edge and forcing the QB out the pocket. It’s always the pocket collapses and the QB is swamped by his Oline. 1
Big Turk Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) The Bills generate enough pressure to make the QB uncomfortable enough to drop his eyes, move out of the pocket or throw it before he wants to many times...they might not get sacks but they are affecting throws. Edited November 10, 2019 by matter2003
Chill Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Yes it’s a problem. Pass rush has a direct correlation with interceptions. Our picks are way down... Edited November 10, 2019 by Chill 1
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 Whatever metric or analysis they are using to claim the Bills have 5th best pass rush is severely flawed.
Boatdrinks Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 Wow, that ranking by PFF seems very high. I obviously don’t see every other NFL game, but I’d have guessed the Bills would be in the bottom half of the league somewhere. They don’t get a ton of pressure or sacks, and not many takeaways as a direct result. I’m surprised at their analysis.
Big Turk Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Whatever metric or analysis they are using to claim the Bills have 5th best pass rush is severely flawed. Hmm...i dunno... How many throw aways do opposing QBs have against us where they are chased out of the pocket with a Bills defender trailing them? Seems like it happens fairly frequently. Edited November 10, 2019 by matter2003 1
row_33 Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Whatever metric or analysis they are using to claim the Bills have 5th best pass rush is severely flawed. why pass when you can run through them at will 1
Happy Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: why pass when you can run through them at will Hopefully that will be fixed for the Cleveland game. That still leaves the pass rush to improve. I don't necessarily care about sacks, but Mayfield needs to be pressured and he will turn it over, or at least be inaccurate.
LSHMEAB Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 Wonder how much this ranking has to do with the opponents the Bills have played. As someone noted, there's rarely a playmaker flying off the edge or even shooting an interior gap. They collapse the pocket well enough, but that's not the type of pressure that really rattles the top QB's or leads to turnovers, etc. It's a problem. 1
PlayoffsPlease Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Hopefully that will be fixed for the Cleveland game. That still leaves the pass rush to improve. I don't necessarily care about sacks, but Mayfield needs to be pressured and he will turn it over, or at least be inaccurate. whats the plan to stop Chubb?
Hebert19 Posted November 10, 2019 Author Posted November 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Hmm...i dunno... How many throw aways do opposing QBs have against us where they are chased out of the pocket with a Bills defender trailing them? Seems like it happens fairly frequently. This
Dkollidas Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 I think the analytics stuff is overstated in sports like Football & Hockey. There’s too many random variables to isolate a lot of what’s happening on any given play. Baseball is so much easier in terms of using analytics, just s simpler game. That being said, while I think they could use another guy on the edge (I’m not a Murphy fan, and Hughes is getting towards the end of his road), they get pressure, but not a ton of sacks. I wonder if that’s partially because we cover so well?
Happy Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: whats the plan to stop Chubb? The same one that stopped AP in the second half last week? 1
PlayoffsPlease Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: The same one that stopped AP in the second half last week? you dont honestly think Chubb and old man peterson are similar talents in 2019 do you?
Boatdrinks Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: The same one that stopped AP in the second half last week? I’m pretty sure their adjustments worked last week (at least in part )due to facing a rookie QB in his first start ; they weren’t too concerned about the passing game. I’d venture they have a plan designed to limit Chubb, but it won’t be the same thing they ran vs WAS.
Happy Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I’m pretty sure their adjustments worked last week (at least in part )due to facing a rookie QB in his first start ; they weren’t too concerned about the passing game. I’d venture they have a plan designed to limit Chubb, but it won’t be the same thing they ran vs WAS. That's a good point. McD didn't fear Haskins' passing threat, but will have to respect Mayfield. Chubb and AP are similar in stature, but Chubb is faster than AP. He'll be a handful who you don't want to get going to full speed. I would guess Oliver will be limited in playing time again in favor of Jordan Phillips, Star, and Taylor.
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