IDBillzFan Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I don't think that the church embraces Pelosi and Andrew Cuomo but maybe they could go to outright denouncing them but then that might invite a heavy counter response that the churches may not survive. The churches are already under serious pressure as it is that threaten their survival. Not to take this discussion sideways, but Christianity aside...'the church' is every bit as screwed up as the government. Christianity is not a complicated thing. But it is made complicated by people who call themselves -- and are seen as -- Christians. There are a lot of "Christian voices" (i.e. Jen Hatmaker) who have many followers, but who -- over the past few years -- have suddenly decided God and His Word are probably wrong on a couple of things. One popular guy (name escapes me right now), who still considered himself a Christian, explained that he has different views on gay marriage because Christ's view on marriage only being between a man and a woman was simply something he read in "some letters written 2000 years ago." It didn't fit his belief, so instead of deciding he was not a Christian, he decided to become his own kind of Christian. So it's no surprised there is a church for Nancy. And their is a church for Cuomo. I'm sure there is a church there for Biden since he was refused communion by his pastor, which was admirable, but even when you look up that story, "Snopes" explains that while the priest said he did, the Biden campaign would not comment, so it is considered "unproven." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Fiscally: conservativeSocially: depends on the issue I largely agree with the OP (nice job, BTW!)Immigration Don't like our immigration laws? Vote to change them, then follow those laws. Till then? Follow our freaking laws – as in all of them – not just those that are politically expedient. Abortion Seems to be a hot-button topic for Christians and Catholics, of which I am neither. I – I just don’t care. Do what you want. Spare me the details, please. (Don't ask, don't tell?) Marijuana Legalize nationally for recreational use. Tax the crap out of it. If you want to smoke, vape, etc. – go for it. That’s your choice. But don’t blame businesses that refuse to employ you if your choice goes against their policy. That's their choice. Reparations Egypt and Germany owe me and my people a ****load of money!!! As soon as those checks clear, I'll send mine! Ridiculous. I’m a first-generation American. Why should I have to pay? Why should my Green Card-holding Asian wife? Don't ****ing punish us for something our ancestors never did. Would I vote for a Democrat? Democrat? Yes. Socialist? Never. Put forth a candidate who hasn’t hijacked the loony express and I’ll gladly listen to what he or she has to say. That person doesn’t (yet) exist in the field. Edit: Term Limits **** yes. Yesterday. Edited November 12, 2019 by Golden Goat Forgot the most important one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) I'm for individual liberties and personal responsibility. Edited November 13, 2019 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Anti-socialist 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 A popular (and correct) refrain among conservative and libertarians is that the Constitution was designed to be a cage on the Federal Government, carefully enumerating it's very limited powers, restricting what it is allowed to do, in order to maximize and preserve the liberty of a free people. However I would argue that, given the mountains of evidence compiled over more than two centuries, that it does not work as intended, and rather than serve as a bulwark against government intrusion; it's intended purpose has now been flipped on it's head, as it is used by the Federal Government as a permissive guide towards the usurpation of power and the oppression of it's people. The Constitution has objectively failed in it's stated goals, and as such the government it chartered is no more. The government in it's current form should be abolished. In it's place should be erected a bare-bones minarchial structure serving no purpose other than the enforcement of private contracts, the protection of national borders, and enforcement of laws requiring that the states/territories/municipalities within uphold the natural rights of the people living within their borders; and it should be funded through voluntarism. Free banking with no designated state currency should be the order of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Registered Democrat, socially in the middle and fiscally conservative. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I'm against abortion. I have no problem helping people who really need assistance. I'm really not for or against gay marriage. I consider it none of my business. I believe in America first. I think the democratic party is corrupt at the top. They need to go and let more moderate Democrats take charge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, westside2 said: Registered Democrat, socially in the middle and fiscally conservative. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I'm against abortion. I have no problem helping people who really need assistance. I'm really not for or against gay marriage. I consider it none of my business. I believe in America first. I think the democratic party is corrupt at the top. They need to go and let more moderate Democrats take charge. The House Impeachmrnt is led by moderate Democrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'm a leftist. The issue that is of Paramount concern to me is having Democrats in office. Everything else is negotiable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 51 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The House Impeachmrnt is led by moderate Democrats Are you crazy!!! Shiff, Pelosi, Nadler,Waters etc,etc,etc....are not moderates by any stretch of your imagination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: The House Impeachmrnt is led by moderate Democrats Tibs....I live in California. There are no moderate Democrats left here. Swallwell, Pelosi, Schiff? See a connection here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Tibs....I live in California. There are no moderate Democrats left here. Swallwell, Pelosi, Schiff? See a connection here? No, you are just so far up Trump’s butt you can’t tell anything else. IMO 2 hours ago, westside2 said: Are you crazy!!! Shiff, Pelosi, Nadler,Waters etc,etc,etc....are not moderates by any stretch of your imagination. Nope, the moderate Dems came over and signed on to impeachment. The Dems won the House by winning swing districts across the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, you are just so far up Trump’s butt you can’t tell anything else. IMO Tibs, do you have to go there? I know from other posts that you’re way better than that. Don’t get lazy on me friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 ....fiscally conservative and pay my own way......LEANINGS: over the American Standard vomiting daily with the current state of (DIS) repairs in this country....no more personal responsibility, socialism on the doorstep, Antifa, millenials with 50 weeks of paid vacation(Soros Distribution Corp) to facilitate city to city protests, etc......we are woefully effed up.....our moral and social fiber?.....we're a 3rd rate mess........and it has NOTHING to do with Trump.....all the clamor for a "Wshington Outsider" and we have one...the "good 'ol boyz network" has been turned inside out (FINALLY)....the graft, corruption, presidential coup, etc exposures are never things I thought I'd see in my lifetime at age 66......yup and MAGA was a fraud...he ran to accumulate personal wealth (HUGE salary) , power, a book deal, his very own library and to attend funerals with the Clintons besides other formers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 12:09 PM, westside2 said: let more moderate Democrats take charge. No such thing in Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: No such thing in Congress. What about all those moderate districts that flipped to Democrat in 2018? Huh? I dont think you can think in a in a rational manner about politics. You guys won’t get the House back anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Pro-socialist. But, not that extreme. More less a New Dealer. Left of center, off of the strip... Sometimes rocker. Okay most of the times rocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 11:09 AM, westside2 said: Registered Democrat, socially in the middle and fiscally conservative. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I'm against abortion. I have no problem helping people who really need assistance. I'm really not for or against gay marriage. I consider it none of my business. I believe in America first. I think the democratic party is corrupt at the top. They need to go and let more moderate Democrats take charge. I would agree. Except I haven't flipped. It's not up to me to decide "who needs assistance." I don't hate like that. I consider that none of my business. Fiscally more conservative... But indifferent to money. Easiest thing in the world to make or let go of. That's most certainly NOT the source of my attachment. Money, taxes, etc... Sorry if I believe it shouldn't be your's either. It's the root of all evil. I am pro-Christian... But not over the top whacked out religiously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Anti-Avarice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What about all those moderate districts that flipped to Democrat in 2018? Huh? I dont think you can think in a in a rational manner about politics. You guys won’t get the House back anytime soon. You post beyond obsessively in the PPP section and judge who's rational in here ? You're a funny one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: You post beyond obsessively in the PPP section and judge who's rational in here ? You're a funny one. He has to do this so he can sleep at night. HIs mom says he has less oopsies with his undies that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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