blacklabel Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 That's neat. It's just that standards for the passing game have elevated so much since '93. Back then, yeah, Kelly's stats looked good. Today, people look at Allen's identical stats and think, "He a bum!" I think he'll get there, though. 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 yeah but Jim never won anything We need better / sarc 4
transplantbillsfan Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, blacklabel said: That's neat. It's just that standards for the passing game have elevated so much since '93. Back then, yeah, Kelly's stats looked good. Today, people look at Allen's identical stats and think, "He a bum!" I think he'll get there, though. Back then Kelly's stats looked good? How old are you? 1
Seasons1992 Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: yeah but Jim never won anything We need better 1 6
Real McClappy Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Forecast: 60.9 comp % 3306 passing yds 20TDs 14ints 494 rushing yds 8 rushing TDs That's not a bad 2nd year for a QB 13 2
Bangarang Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Anytime someone compares QB stats to one from nearly 3 decades ago I know they are an idiot. What should we take from this? Edited November 5, 2019 by Bangarang 6 1 1
row_33 Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Josh is about 1/575th the accomplishments of Jim at this point in his career 1 2
badassgixxer05 Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Dan Marino was chucking the rock all over back in the 80s too. Passing offense isn't a new thing. Kelly took some time to dial in like anyone else and then saw better days. I think Josh will get there. Its those fn mahomes guys these days that ruin it for everyone. lol Now everyone wants to see MVP level passing day 1 or hes a bust.. 1
Virgil Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 They also had Thurman and KD. But I get your point and it’s a good one. Same when you think about Reed never had back to back 1K seasons. The Bills offense was premier yet you can’t compare them to teams two decades later. Look at the greatest show on turf. Even those stats are consistently beaten in today’s NFL and they destroyed everyone. I can’t remember the last time in 20 years when a teams QB, RB, and top 2 WR’s all went in the top 10 of a fantasy football draft. It was crazy 2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Forecast: 60.9 comp % 3306 passing yds 20TDs 14ints 494 rushing yds 8 rushing TDs That's not a bad 2nd year for a QB I know this is knit-picking, but 20 TDs is too few in today’s NFL if you don’t have the rushing attack and TDs there to support it. But if this is a trend, that’s good for year 2. 3800+ and 30+ TDs I think would be solid for year 3. 2
syhuang Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 I want to see Josh Allen continue to improve and eventually be the guy. However, when I saw this tweet yesterday, I can't help but think it's a misleading comparison due to different eras. in 1993, average comp%: 57.9%, average pass yard/game: 200.6, average TD/game: 1.2, average INT/game: 1.0 in 2019, average comp%: 64.8%, average pass yard/game: 238.5, average TD/game: 1.5, average INT/game: 0.8 4 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: I thought that they banned all of the floor mats at OBD 3
StHustle Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Cool so all we need now is to add 3-4 future HOFers in their primes to this roster and we'll be all set. 1 1
billsfan1959 Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Anytime someone compares QB stats to one from nearly 3 decades ago I know they are an idiot. What should we take from this? Well, I'd say you are more than qualified to know one when you see one... 1
gsx95red Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Couldn't be more than fake news on the original graphic. Just someone trying to supportive their own narrative.... That's the Jim Kelly stats for his first 6 games played in 2013 (they had TWO byes back then - Week 8 on NFL calendar), and then someone lines up Allen's stats for a full 8 games played (Week 9 by NFL schedule). If you are going to do it this way - please add the 10 fumbles by Allen that are drive killers (3 of them lost which changed possession). Pure nonsense.... 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Virgil said: I know this is knit-picking, but 20 TDs is too few in today’s NFL if you don’t have the rushing attack and TDs there to support it. But if this is a trend, that’s good for year 2. 3800+ and 30+ TDs I think would be solid for year 3. Tainted Tom only has 14 TD's thus far this year and 5 INT's Lamar Jackson has 12 TD's thus far this year and 5 INT's Jimmy Porn Star G has 13 TD's thus far this year and 7 INT's Josh Allen has 10 TD's thus far this year and 7 INT's edit Jarred Goff has 11 TD's thus far this year and7 INT's Edited November 5, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 1
billsfan1959 Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Tainted Tom only has 14 TD's thus far this year and 5 INT's Lamar Jackson has 12 TD's thus far this year and 5 INT's Jimmy Porn Star G has 13 TD's thus far this year and 7 INT's Josh Allen has 10 TD's thus far this year and 7 INT's And seven of Lamar Jackson's TDs came in the 1st two games. Since then, 5 TDS, 5 INTS, 4 Fumbles. But hey, he is at least in the discussion for League MVP. 2 2
Virgil Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Tainted Tom only has 14 TD's thus far this year and 5 INT's Lamar Jackson has 12 TD's thus far this year and 5 INT's Jimmy Porn Star G has 13 TD's thus far this year and 7 INT's Josh Allen has 10 TD's thus far this year and 7 INT's I don’t think those are great comparisons this year. Brady hasn’t been himself and his defense is scoring more touchdowns that some offenses. He doesn’t need to do as much. Lamar still isn’t a true QB to me yet, no matter how effective that offense may be. People eventually adapt to Roman and shut him down. Jimmy is a decent comparison, but they also are sporting a great D and 3 headed rushing attack. But I do see the point you are trying to make 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: And seven of Lamar Jackson's TDs came in the 1st two games. Since then, 5 TDS, 5 INTS, 4 Fumbles. But hey, he is at least in the discussion for League MVP. LOL insanity ... 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: I don’t think those are great comparisons this year. Brady hasn’t been himself and his defense is scoring more touchdowns that some offenses. He doesn’t need to do as much. Lamar still isn’t a true QB to me yet, no matter how effective that offense may be. People eventually adapt to Roman and shut him down. Jimmy is a decent comparison, but they also are sporting a great D and 3 headed rushing attack. But I do see the point you are trying to make Why? Are you choosing to cherry pick Virgil The numbers are what they are. the QB's (beside Brady and Belicheat ) don't get to pick who and where they play Every name I listed has STAR power. All but Buffalo's own Josh Allen. Why? and don't say Josh sucks people Edited November 5, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 1
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