GunnerBill Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 The reason some are uncomfortable despite 6-2 is that the book on beating the Bills is now out. The run defense is on tape for every single team that studies it. You think Dallas, Denver, Miami and Baltimore are not going to run that same inside left zone run that has gashed us three weeks in a row repeatedly until the Bills stop it? Cleveland might not because Freddie Kitchens is an absolute clown. So the Bills have to show that the adjustment they made in the second half yesterday - which was a combination of run blitzing and (as per @GoBills808) going to more of a 2 gapping scheme up front - is sustainable. Both of those adjustments have a significant impact on the way that the overall defense is designed. Heavy run blitzing means leaving your corners in more 1v1 matchups - and Levi Wallace isn't suited to that. 2 gapping on the dline affects the way that want to rush the passer from the interior. I know people have banged on about sack numbers not being there but the pressures from the interior were a major reason for the Bills keeping New England, Cincy, the Giants and the Titans off schedule earlier in the season because they were forcing the ball to be thrown off time and out of rhythm with the offense. So there are fixes for the Bills to the run D but they have to show those fixes don't hurt the integrity of the rest of the scheme. Anyway, that is the negative. The positive is that despite the run D struggles the defense remains 3rd in yards per game and 3rd in points per game. The offense continues to lack consistency but continues to be pretty good in the redzone (think it was 3 TDs from 4 trips yesterday) they lead the NFL in that category. I think the Cleveland game looms extremely large now. It will not make or break the season but if the Bill can win it and get to 7-2 and 5-1 in the conference then only an almighty collapse will keep them out of the postseason. 1
OutOfBubbleGum Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Blah Blah Blah... Getting ahead of yourself there.
fergie's ire Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Check your math. If the bills win out, they've handed the pats theirs second loss And if that happens, and we both have 2 losses an have beaten each other, WHY do we win the division? Because we were smart and lost to Philly. Genius. That loss could actually give us the number one seed. 1 1
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Oh for the love of God. Can we worry about beating the Browns first? Hasn't the 2019 version of the Buffalo Bills taught you anything yet? Like the fact that EVERY game is dog fight for them, no matter WHO the opposition is. With that little margin of error every week, we have no business talking about "controlling their own destiny". There is still a half a season left and even the playoffs are no guarantees whatsoever, never mind a number one seed. This is a team that definitely has to concentrate on one game at a time, every game they seem to struggle in one major area or another. 1
The Red King Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Nobody here thinks the Bills are some kind of juggernaut that are going to crush everyone in their path. They have weaknesses, things that will make any fan reach for the Pepto. But at the same time... ...the Bills are 6-2. Let that sink in. At the midpoint they are 6-2, with one loss coming to the Pats, a game most of us would have expected them to lose. The Bills right now are in a position teams like the Browns and Jets are envious of. Before the season, I think we would all have been thrilled at the prospect of 6-2. And yet, now that we're here some fans can't just bring themselves to enjoy the ride. They won't be happy until Buffalo is a completely dominant team, steamrolling opponents. I mean, you don't hear San Fran fans bitching about close wins, and they only barely edged these same Skins 9-3 if I recall. 6-2. Shh...just go with it. 1 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, The Red King said: Nobody here thinks the Bills are some kind of juggernaut that are going to crush everyone in their path. They have weaknesses, things that will make any fan reach for the Pepto. But at the same time... ...the Bills are 6-2. Let that sink in. At the midpoint they are 6-2, with one loss coming to the Pats, a game most of us would have expected them to lose. The Bills right now are in a position teams like the Browns and Jets are envious of. Before the season, I think we would all have been thrilled at the prospect of 6-2. And yet, now that we're here some fans can't just bring themselves to enjoy the ride. They won't be happy until Buffalo is a completely dominant team, steamrolling opponents. I mean, you don't hear San Fran fans bitching about close wins, and they only barely edged these same Skins 9-3 if I recall. 6-2. Shh...just go with it. Exactly. Any Bills "fan" still whining at 6-2 needs to get chucked off the bandwagon with force, and not allowed back on.
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, The Red King said: Before the season, I think we would all have been thrilled at the prospect of 6-2. And yet, now that we're here some fans can't just bring themselves to enjoy the ride. They have the lowest point total for one of the "good teams", and have struggled in every game, and many of the games have been against bad teams. I don't think most fans just look at the record as the totality of the "ride". It's akin to enjoying the Sabres ride last season, you kind of knew it was a faux-ride.
Cripple Creek Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Pats losing to the Ravens tonight seals that. Buffalo is being overlooked by absolutely everyone as a good team. But we've also beaten every team we were "supposed" to beat. Who cares how it looked? Seahawks went to overtime against an inferior 2 win Bucs team with a turnover prone QB. Will the conversation be about how the 'Hawks are in trouble? Probably not. Packers lost to the 3-5 Chargers today. They're still going to be talked about as a legitimate Super contenders and this game will likely be an afterthought. Patriots have only beaten one team with a winning record: that was Buffalo and it was by 6 points in a game that they had a fluke ST TD and knocked our starting QB out for the entire 4th quarter. Tonight they got dominated like we did last week against the Eagles. So that leaves the Ravens. We play them. They stomped the Patriots. But they also got stomped by the 2 win Cleveland Browns. It's not like they're unbeatable. Wins are Wins and any team in the NFL can win in any given week, so don't overlook anyone! Just keep winning Buffalo!!! What body part is it that you had transplanted?
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Exactly. Any Bills "fan" still whining at 6-2 needs to get chucked off the bandwagon with force, and not allowed back on. You don't get to decide who is a fan of the team.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Seven-N-Nine said: You don't get to decide who is a fan of the team. Hell I don't. You're gonna be first to get the aunt edna treatment. Tied to the bumper.
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Hell I don't. You're gonna be first to get the aunt edna treatment. Tied to the bumper. A personal threat? Plus that was the dog I think. Edna was on top of the car... Edited November 4, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine 2
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, Seven-N-Nine said: A personal threat? It's a metaphor, fool.
Dopey Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Cant we just be happy they are 6-2 after a couple of tough wins and moving on? The thought of them being the No 1 seed in the AFC has not entered my mind until this thread.. So now it's in your head. Embrace the possibilities. It's been quite a while since we could even imaging this scenario. 1
HomeTeam Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Pats losing to the Ravens tonight seals that. Buffalo is being overlooked by absolutely everyone as a good team. But we've also beaten every team we were "supposed" to beat. Who cares how it looked? Seahawks went to overtime against an inferior 2 win Bucs team with a turnover prone QB. Will the conversation be about how the 'Hawks are in trouble? Probably not. Packers lost to the 3-5 Chargers today. They're still going to be talked about as a legitimate Super contenders and this game will likely be an afterthought. Patriots have only beaten one team with a winning record: that was Buffalo and it was by 6 points in a game that they had a fluke ST TD and knocked our starting QB out for the entire 4th quarter. Tonight they got dominated like we did last week against the Eagles. So that leaves the Ravens. We play them. They stomped the Patriots. But they also got stomped by the 2 win Cleveland Browns. It's not like they're unbeatable. Wins are Wins and any team in the NFL can win in any given week, so don't overlook anyone! Just keep winning Buffalo!!! I love the optimism but lets pump the breaks. Why do we always do this to ourselves? Last week, lose to the Eagles, "we are pretenders" This week, beat the Redskins, "possible 1 seed?" I'm just going to let things play out as they do and try to enjoy the season. Go Bills!
Bills!Win! Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Cool.. No not really.. Bit of a dud thread actually.. But of a did comment by you
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Doesn't every team control their own destiny?? 13 minutes ago, HomeTeam said: I love the optimism but lets pump the breaks. Why do we always do this to ourselves? Last week, lose to the Eagles, "we are pretenders" This week, beat the Redskins, "possible 1 seed?" I'm just going to let things play out as they do and try to enjoy the season. Go Bills! excellent post. We're on to Cleveland and what that presents against a struggling desperate team. Does Cleveland still have any fight left? The Browns are a shambles ... Will they finally crack and surrender or keep on trucking. Take nothing lightly in the NFL
FiftyPercent Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Doesn't every team control their own destiny?? excellent post. We're on to Cleveland and what that presents against a struggling desperate team. Does Cleveland still have any fight left? The Browns are a shambles ... Will they finally crack and surrender or keep on trucking. Take nothing lightly in the NFL Eagles were desperate but they had a real playoff chance still. The Browns desperation is different, just not sure yet if it is more dangerous.
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean it is ridiculous but I do love that optimism, I mean why not. I agree it's a long shot, but I believe the OP's point is that this is the best position we have been in, 8 games into the season, in a long, long time. We all know there are some weaknesses that need to be addressed with this team, but I am happy to see us continuing to move in the right direction! I am officially on team optimism. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, FiftyPercent said: Eagles were desperate but they had a real playoff chance still. The Browns desperation is different, just not sure yet if it is more dangerous. which is why I posted what I did. On any given Sunday. The ROOKIE that had an NFL record with 27 TD's last year .... You can not over look that. In 8 games no less Edited November 4, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost
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