SloanBillsFan Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 I'm not & don't pretend to be hyper-familiar with the NFL rulebook. But I would like to hear about that incomplete pass to John Brown where the defender (Josh Norman?) had his ankles wrapped up while #15 was up for the catch. Was that a legitimate non-call for DPI? Thanks!
Chill Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) Questionable, I’d lean toward early contact. More importantly, JA should never assume a penalty and just toss it up there, esp. on 3rd down. Seeing ghost flags. Edited November 3, 2019 by Chill 1 1
Nextmanup Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 I think it was a pretty clear piece of pass interference, but I don't fault McDermott for not challenging... The way things have gone this year, teams are not getting that call, even though in this case, we should have. It's another good example of how far from "perfect" or "getting it right" the NFL is, even with all the review/replay/challenge crap. I wish they would scrap it all tomorrow. 4
whatdrought Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 Clearly pass interferance. Somewhat harder to call just because it’s not body to body, but no question that the contact was before the ball got there and that the contact was directly prohibitive for the receiver to get the ball. 4
Boatdrinks Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 The contact was early and should have been called imo 1
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 They would have never overturned that on a challenge. But it wouldn’t have been unreasonable to call it in real time. regardless, Brown should have caught it. He had two really bad drops today. 1
KellyToTasker Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: They would have never overturned that on a challenge. But it wouldn’t have been unreasonable to call it in real time. regardless, Brown should have caught it. He had two really bad drops today. Come, on..... The contact clearly pulled him away from the ball. Watching it live it was obvious. Even more so on replay. I agree on Brown’s drop with Allen rolling to the right......But even after that, Brown made a great grab on the 3rd and long in which he had to climb the ladder. Brown had one bad drop today (and made up for later). 3
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, KellyToTasker said: Come, on..... The contact clearly pulled him away from the ball. Watching it live it was obvious. Even more so on replay. I agree on Brown’s drop with Allen rolling to the right......But even after that, Brown made a great grab on the 3rd and long in which he had to climb the ladder. Brown had one bad drop today (and made up for later). Yeah, you might be right on the “PI play”— but when I saw it replayed a few times, looks like it went right through his hands and that he should have caught it. But maybe getting pulled on caused him to lose focus.
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Yeah, you might be right on the “PI play”— but when I saw it replayed a few times, looks like it went right through his hands and that he should have caught it. But maybe getting pulled on caused him to lose focus. It is really hard to catch a ball while your feet are being pulled out from under you- I am usually a WR must catch a ball guy but that one is virtually impossible to blame WR
CoudyBills Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Seeing a ghost crusader that needs to heed his screen name.
BillsFanSD Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 That was clear, unambiguous PI. Replay would not have overturned it because the replay officials are refusing to do their jobs.
KellyToTasker Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Yeah, you might be right on the “PI play”— but when I saw it replayed a few times, looks like it went right through his hands and that he should have caught it. But maybe getting pulled on caused him to lose focus. His body shifted in a direction away from the ball due to the early hit by the DB. It’s wasn’t about losing focus. He wanted to do one thing, the DB had him do another. It was a rough call that didn’t go the Bills way.
CLTbills Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Was it pass interference? Absolutely. Would it have been overturned on replay? Absolutely not.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: That was clear, unambiguous PI. Replay would not have overturned it because the replay officials are refusing to do their jobs. So exactly who does decide on these things. Is it a guy an NY who says yes or no? Or does the ref on the field decide whether to reverse his call or not? I thought a guy in NY decided this is worth looking at some more, but then up to the ref on the field. The prevailing opinion is refs don't want to be second guessed on judgement calls so are not over turning anything. But if it's a guy in NY who's only job is to uphold or over turn replays then why wouldn't he over turn them? I'd think he'd be worried about being fired for not over turning obvious ones or for that matter pretty much anything. And it the call is 100% decided by some guy in NY, then why does the referee on the field even go under the hood to look at it? He could just stand in the middle of the field and the guy in NY could whisper in his ear what to do.
djp14150 Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Yeah, you might be right on the “PI play”— but when I saw it replayed a few times, looks like it went right through his hands and that he should have caught it. But maybe getting pulled on caused him to lose focus. You get get pulled down on a jump to catch affects you. it was PI
frostbitmic Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 If the receiver was Edelman it wouldn't just be pass interference but a comp pick for the patriots as well. 1
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