dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/10/30/stephon-gilmore-on-why-he-is-best-cornerback-in-nfl He ached to know how they did it. “I know they’ve got a great quarterback, but these other guys are always in position to make plays,” Gilmore recalls thinking. “Five years in Buffalo, you see that and you are like, I don’t know what it is. What are they doing different? Then, to actually get on their side, is totally different.” --- In Buffalo, Gilmore studied film on a projector at home. But the Patriots watch so much footage during the day that often Gilmore has nothing more to see at night. “Sometimes we even watch the same film 10 times in a row, and it’s like, I already watched this,” he says. “But you are not going to forget it in a game.” --- During his five years in Buffalo, Gilmore had three different coaches and four defensive coordinators. When Rex Ryan arrived in 2015, many expected the former Jets coach to use Gilmore the way he had used Revis. But the Bills’ staff relied less on man coverage than coaches had in New York; they kept Gilmore on the right side of the formation rather than let him follow the top receiver. “[The Patriots] demanded more of him,” says Dennis Thurman, Gilmore’s defensive coordinator for his last two seasons in Buffalo. “They needed him to handle the responsibility they placed on him, and in return he is paying them back for believing in him. He had to prove he was worthy of that contract, and now I think he has outperformed it.” Gilmore did become a Revis—just for the world champions. During New England’s Thursday-night game against the Giants, in Week 6, Revis tweeted that Gilmore “by far is the best corner in the game right now.” 3 2 2 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Happy Gilmore When YOU don't live up to expectations Look inward before you look outward 2 2
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Author Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said: Happy Gilmore When YOU don't live up to expectations Look inward before you look outward He was actually good in Buffalo. Now, with far better coaching and preparation, he's the best in the league at his craft. 18 4
Reader Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Angry reactions aside that he dare something bad about our team, I am wondering how much he is generalizing. I would think that between Pettine and Schwartz he would have had opportunities better than playing for Rex.
Coach Tuesday Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 What does this say about that irresponsible previous regime which drafted him? Or the current regime who let him walk so that they could trade down, pass on two potential All Pro QBs, to draft his replacement? 2 1 2
2003Contenders Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 The Bills have a long history of drafting quality CBs -- Winfield, Clements, Gilmore, and now White. They let the first 3 walk before their 2nd contract, let's hope that doesn't happen with Tre. 5
Royale with Cheese Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 He was the whipping boy on here. 1
Buffalo716 Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: He was actually good in Buffalo. Now, with far better coaching and preparation, he's the best in the league at his craft. He was just as good here. He got no recognition and constantly had to play cover 0 and 1 with rex. Not exactly stat stuffing coverages He's always been a top corner 3
Royale with Cheese Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, 2003Contenders said: The Bills have a long history of drafting quality CBs -- Winfield, Clements, Gilmore, and now White. They let the first 3 walk before their 2nd contract, let's hope that doesn't happen with Tre. Winfield was never coming back. In order to keep Clements, we would had to have made him the highest paid defensive back in NFL history. A year or two later...he was reduced to a nickel corner. 4
2003Contenders Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: He was the whipping boy on here. He was. Part of that was because Rex so badly mis-used him. That said, it was pretty clear in his final season here that he knew he was going to be playing elsewhere and was looking for a big payday, so (whether consciously or not) he went out of his way to avoid contact/injury during that final season as a Bill. 3
wagon127 Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 I believe everything Gilmore says here. For 19 seasons this team has dominated the NFL. They don't always win the superbowl, but they are almost always 1 of the final 4 teams. It has to be coaching. Some how, their receivers are always open, regardless of a pick play or not. Their defenses dominate when Tom Brady is having a less then steller day. The fact that teams are unable to give new England 1 losing season for the last 19 years, is an indication of how bad the coaching is on most of the other NFL teams. That nobody can figure out what Belichick does, to consistently start beating him. Mainly the Bills, Jets and Dolphins. I hope McDermott is able to beat the patriots soon. 4 1
416BillsFan Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Reader said: Angry reactions aside that he dare something bad about our team, I am wondering how much he is generalizing. I would think that between Pettine and Schwartz he would have had opportunities better than playing for Rex. Gilmore was one of the few holdover defensive players who kept improving in the 2 Rex years. Not saying they Ryan scheme was the reason - maybe it was - or just that he had more experience by that point.
2003Contenders Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Winfield was never coming back. In order to keep Clements, we would had to have made him the highest paid defensive back in NFL history. A year or two later...he was reduced to a nickel corner. Can't argue with you here. I guess what I am getting at is that (and this stretched across various administrations) the front office(s) failed to be proactive in contract negotiations. Quality CBs are a huge commodity in the NFL, which is why they command such large contracts. When White signs his next contract, it will likely make him the highest paid CB in the NFL (until the next top notch CB becomes a free agent); the Bills need to accept that and work with him and his agent in good faith -- before he becomes a free agent and gains leverage. After all, part of this long term plan is to draft well and keep our own good players, right? 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He was actually good in Buffalo. Now, with far better coaching and preparation, he's the best in the league at his craft. Well, that, but the fact that apparently Patriots DBs just never commit DPI doesn't hurt 2 4 1 2
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Remind me again how I should care about the actions of previous regimes? 2 1
st pete gogolak Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Gilmore was an excellent corner while he was here but in his free agency year, I have never, ever seen an NFL player avoid contact like Gilmore avoided contact. It was a joke. After that, I didn't care whether he came back or not. Still don't. 11 2
DrDawkinstein Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Remind me again how I should care about the actions of previous regimes? Because it's those exact irresponsible actions of the past which scare our current regime away from making trades. Apparently. Or at least according to McD? I dunno, but I agree with you.
wagon127 Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Happy Gilmore When YOU don't live up to expectations Look inward before you look outward I think he's done looking inward after 3 super bowl trips, and two Wins. Somehow someway, every single NFL franchise has had multiple losing or .500 seasons over the last 19 years, except the Patriots who haven't even had 1. How is this possible? That not once, could a collection of 13 teams on a patriots schedule not be able to find a way to beat the patriots enough to force them into a losing season. There are just that many incompetent coaches in the NFL, that are incapable of bringing out the best in their players. The Patriots are doing something different, and I want more players like Gilmour to come out and explain how this is possible. 2
Kelly the Dog Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He was actually good in Buffalo. Now, with far better coaching and preparation, he's the best in the league at his craft. He was way better than people give him credit for in Buffalo. Much of the criticism was stupid. He did, however, GREATLY benefit on New England for already having been in the league for 4-5 years, so he was now getting veteran calls from the refs, combined with getting Patriot calls from the refs, which makes an enormous difference in his production. He was very good on the Bills though. 3
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