Wayne Cubed Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Said the guy whose boss tried to trade for AB... And did trade for KB and Jordan Matthews. And who himself traded out of selecting arguably the best QB playing the game now and last years MVP. 2
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: McDermott on no trades: "There have been too many years of irresponsible decision-making, let's just put it that way." .....speaking from experience ? The process clock is ticking down Sean. As I think about it, we saw reports they were in on Sanu and Sanders - the real message here is they weren’t going to beat a second for Sanu or what Denver got for Sanders.
billsfan1959 Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: 5-2 don't make a season. .....your posts alone fill the bill. Why be so miserable? Come join the optimistic side. You'll feel better.... 1 minute ago, GG said: Same context as introducing a mid-season record against some of the worst early stage competition in the history of the franchise. No it's not. Quit being ridiculous.
H2o Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The Chiefs are 0-3 against teams with a winning record. Yeah, but Mahomes throws for like 400 yards a game so that makes it okay in some people's eyes. 1 1
Mango Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I actually hope that McD isn't throwing shade at his predecessor 3 years ago. Enough time has passed that they should be far enough in the rear view to not concern yourself with. 1
Boatdrinks Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: As I think about it, we saw reports they were in on Sanu and Sanders - the real message here is they weren’t going to beat a second for Sanu or what Denver got for Sanders. Not sure they had to beat those offers, probably just match them. Bills slot is probably going to be higher than the Niners or Pats*.
starrymessenger Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 To me this is a weak and unnecessary comment from McD. I agree with those who speculate he was probably still smarting from seeing his vaunted D get pretty much blown off the ball two games in a row.
billsfan1959 Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Who picked them to win 6 games on this board? Every team is "still building"? Go back and look at the threads where "success" was defined by most everyone as fighting for a playoff spot. However, I was particularly talking about the so called experts. As far as the "still building" comment: Stop being so obtuse. As if there is no difference in the stage of building between teams. Edited October 30, 2019 by billsfan1959
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Not sure they had to beat those offers, probably just match them. Bills slot is probably going to be higher than the Niners or Pats*. Isn’t offering a likely better pick beating the offer?
Rico Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Whaley's trades for players: Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes Kiko Alonso for Lesean McCoy A fifth and a seventh for Matt Cassel and a sixth Trade deadline trades: I'm fairly certain the number under Whaley was zero. Buddy Nix traded Sheppard for Hughes. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2013/04/29/bills-trade-lb-kelvin-sheppard-colts-lb-jerry-hughes Edited October 30, 2019 by Rico
PIZ Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Whaley's trades for players: Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes Kiko Alonso for Lesean McCoy A fifth and a seventh for Matt Cassel and a sixth Trade deadline trades: I'm fairly certain the number under Whaley was zero. He didn't say the poor decision making was ONLY trades. I think he meant in more general terms, meaning there were lots of poor decisions (draft picks, GM hires, coach hires, coach firings, extensions, trades, FA acquisitions, cuts, etc.) overall in the past; not just trades. 1
blacklabel Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 I really don't see anything wrong with him saying what he said. I think when he talks about being irresponsible he's basically saying, yeah we did talk to some teams but the asking price would've really impacted future drafts and it would be irresponsible to give up what was being asked. 1 1
Boatdrinks Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Isn’t offering a likely better pick beating the offer? Not really. If team A and team B offer a 2nd rounder, that’s matching it. It’s safe to surmise that if NE and BUF each offered a 2nd that Sanu is in a Bills uniform now. SF would take the Bills pick based on probability but it’s not a sure thing. A 2nd rounder is a second rounder unless the Pats* own CIN’s 2nd round pick or something.
Happy Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 McD is correct in his statement. He shouldn't ignore the fact that he has personnel and scheme issue that need to be solved.
GG Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Why be so miserable? Come join the optimistic side. You'll feel better.... No it's not. Quit being ridiculous. Why isn't it an apt comparison? Jauron is a famously mediocre head coach, who once presided over a 13-3 team. What has McDermott done so far to prove that he can be an upper echelon coach? The team is 5-2, with squeaky wins over bottom feeders and looked inept against a roiling Eagles squad. They have yet to put together a complete game on both sides of the line. That smacks of being average.
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2019 Author Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: McD is correct in his statement. He shouldn't ignore the fact that he has personnel and scheme issue that need to be solved. He didn’t, it was discussed most of the presser 2
dave mcbride Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rico said: Buddy Nix traded Sheppard for Hughes. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2013/04/29/bills-trade-lb-kelvin-sheppard-colts-lb-jerry-hughes I view them more as a team, especially in the late Nix era. In 2013, I strongly believe that Whaley was running most things, not Nix, who I believe had basically checked out.
In Summary Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 51 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: If he blames the previous admin it looks like an excuse. If he blames Beane, it strains relationships. If he blames himself, he looks incompetent. I see it as a "we can collectively do better and need not be impulsive" statement. It's not a papal decree. Just a challenge to do better.
Boatdrinks Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, PIZ said: He didn't say the poor decision making was ONLY trades. I think he meant in more general terms, meaning there were lots of poor decisions (draft picks, GM hires, coach hires, coach firings, extensions, trades, FA acquisitions, cuts, etc.) overall in the past; not just trades. Thank you. A lot of folks panties in a bunch about a vague reference to a couple past GMs that few on this board would rate highly.
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