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McDermott on no trades: "There have been too many years of irresponsible decision-making, let's just put it that way."


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  On 10/30/2019 at 4:05 PM, I am the egg man said:

McDermott on no trades: "There have been too many years of irresponsible decision-making, let's just put it that way."

 

.....speaking from experience ?

 

The process clock is ticking down Sean.

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As I think about it, we saw reports they were in on Sanu and Sanders - the real message here is they weren’t going to beat a second for Sanu or what Denver got for Sanders. 

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  On 10/30/2019 at 4:27 PM, I am the egg man said:

5-2 don't make a season.

.....your posts alone fill the bill.

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Why be so miserable? Come join the optimistic side. You'll feel better....

  On 10/30/2019 at 4:29 PM, GG said:

 

Same context as introducing a mid-season record against some of the worst early stage competition in the history of the franchise.

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No it's not. Quit being ridiculous.

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  On 10/30/2019 at 3:31 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

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I actually hope that McD isn't throwing shade at his predecessor 3 years ago. Enough time has passed that they should be far enough in the rear view to not concern yourself with.  

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  On 10/30/2019 at 4:29 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

As I think about it, we saw reports they were in on Sanu and Sanders - the real message here is they weren’t going to beat a second for Sanu or what Denver got for Sanders. 

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Not sure they had to beat those offers, probably just match them. Bills slot is probably going to be higher than the Niners or Pats*.

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To me this is a weak and unnecessary comment from McD. I agree with those who speculate he was probably still smarting from seeing his vaunted D get pretty much blown off the ball two games in a row. 

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  On 10/30/2019 at 4:28 PM, ScottLaw said:

Who picked them to win 6 games on this board? Every team is "still building"?

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Go back and look at the threads where "success" was defined by most everyone as fighting for a playoff spot. However, I was particularly talking about the so called experts.

 

As far as the "still building" comment: Stop being so obtuse. As if there is no difference in the stage of building between teams.

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  On 10/30/2019 at 3:45 PM, dave mcbride said:

Whaley's trades for players:

 

Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes

Kiko Alonso for Lesean McCoy

A fifth and a seventh for Matt Cassel and a sixth

 

Trade deadline trades: I'm fairly certain the number under Whaley was zero. 

 

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Buddy Nix traded Sheppard for Hughes.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2013/04/29/bills-trade-lb-kelvin-sheppard-colts-lb-jerry-hughes

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  On 10/30/2019 at 3:45 PM, dave mcbride said:

Whaley's trades for players:

 

Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes

Kiko Alonso for Lesean McCoy

A fifth and a seventh for Matt Cassel and a sixth

 

Trade deadline trades: I'm fairly certain the number under Whaley was zero. 

 

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He didn't say the poor decision making was ONLY trades.  I think he meant in more general terms, meaning there were lots of poor decisions (draft picks, GM hires, coach hires, coach firings, extensions, trades, FA acquisitions, cuts, etc.) overall in the past; not just trades.

 

 

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I really don't see anything wrong with him saying what he said. I think when he talks about being irresponsible he's basically saying, yeah we did talk to some teams but the asking price would've really impacted future drafts and it would be irresponsible to give up what was being asked. 

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  On 10/30/2019 at 4:34 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Isn’t offering a likely better pick  beating the offer? 

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Not really. If team A and team B offer a 2nd rounder, that’s matching it. It’s safe to surmise that if NE and BUF each offered a 2nd that Sanu is in a Bills uniform now. SF would take the Bills pick based on probability but it’s not a sure thing. A 2nd rounder is a second rounder unless the Pats* own CIN’s 2nd round pick or something. 

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McD is correct in his statement.  He shouldn't ignore the fact that he has personnel and scheme issue that need to be solved.

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  On 10/30/2019 at 4:30 PM, billsfan1959 said:

Why be so miserable? Come join the optimistic side. You'll feel better....

No it's not. Quit being ridiculous.

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Why isn't it an apt comparison?  Jauron is a famously mediocre head coach, who once presided over a 13-3 team. 

 

What has McDermott done so far to prove that he can be an upper echelon coach?   The team is 5-2, with squeaky wins over bottom feeders and looked inept against a roiling Eagles squad.   They have yet to put together a complete game on both sides of the line.  That smacks of being average.

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  On 10/30/2019 at 3:49 PM, quinnearlysghost88 said:

If he blames the previous admin it looks like an excuse. If he blames Beane, it strains relationships. If he blames himself, he looks incompetent. 

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I see it as a "we can collectively do better and need not be impulsive" statement.  It's not a papal decree.  Just a challenge to do better.

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  On 10/30/2019 at 4:38 PM, PIZ said:

 

He didn't say the poor decision making was ONLY trades.  I think he meant in more general terms, meaning there were lots of poor decisions (draft picks, GM hires, coach hires, coach firings, extensions, trades, FA acquisitions, cuts, etc.) overall in the past; not just trades.

 

 

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Thank you. A lot of folks panties in a bunch about a vague reference to a couple past GMs that few on this board would rate highly. 

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