Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Barkley in on the books through 2020 Not one of them will push Josh IMO. Of that list a viable "just in case need for a backup" I'd pick Tannehill or Bridgewater or even maybe Keenum Yeah - we can cut him for a total cap hit of 200K though. I'd agree on those 2, and throw mariota in there. I don't think he's good but i do think he's a capable backup at this point. I also think drafting a QB is smart. Look at accurate guys who may need some seasoning. 1 minute ago, Figster said: If the Bengals have the 1st pick overall it becomes obvious they will draft Tua IMO. If the Bengals pick is not 1st overall it becomes obvious they will not draft Tua IMO. Thanks for the reply. What about Burrow? 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 47 minutes ago, dneveu said: You don't want it to become a blake bortles situation and ruin what might otherwise be a very good team. Next season i expect to both draft someone, and bring in someone better than barkley to push allen. These guys should all be available: Bridgewater, Flacco, Winston, Mariota, Eli Manning, Keenum, Tannehill Obviously Tennessee, Miami, Cinn, TB, Denver, and to a lesser extent Chicago, and Pitt will be looking for QBs. Miami and Cinn are probably already drafting guys in the top 2 picks, and you also have to look at teams looking to improve their backups - but we should be in the mix there. As for drafting? Get me an accurate guy anywhere in this draft, maybe in rounds 2-5. It's Allens team, until it isnt. Color me surprised if these guys stick around for another year of NFL grind with such obviously diminished skills? 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Color me surprised if these guys stick around for another year of NFL grind with such obviously diminished skills? I suppose - i just included them anyway. There's no upside to either starting at this point, you're just signing them for their brain. 1
Figster Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dneveu said: Yeah - we can cut him for a total cap hit of 200K though. I'd agree on those 2, and throw mariota in there. I don't think he's good but i do think he's a capable backup at this point. I also think drafting a QB is smart. Look at accurate guys who may need some seasoning. What about Burrow? I like Burrow, Lawerence, Hurts, but I still think Tua is in a league all his own in my humble opinion. I think the only other QB I've felt this sure about is A Luck. Edited October 30, 2019 by Figster 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, dneveu said: I suppose - i just included them anyway. There's no upside to either starting at this point, you're just signing them for their brain. Ah, like an upgraded Derek Anderson 2nd QB coach type? I could get behind that.
Virgil Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Figster said: If the Bengals have the 1st pick overall it becomes obvious they will draft Tua IMO. If the Bengals pick is not 1st overall it becomes obvious they will not draft Tua IMO. Thanks for the reply. You assume..... Haven't you watched the college offseason enough to know that players do their best work when not playing? I wouldn't be too surprised to see the top 3 QB's change up a few times. But hey, I'm wrong a lot 1
Figster Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Virgil said: You assume..... Haven't you watched the college offseason enough to know that players do their best work when not playing? I wouldn't be too surprised to see the top 3 QB's change up a few times. But hey, I'm wrong a lot You and me both Virgil, I still have a gut feeling from eating nasty Green lima Beans yesterday...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Figster said: I like Burrow, Lawerence, Hurts, but I still think Tua is in a league all his own in my humble opinion. I think the only other QB I've felt this sure about is A Luck. Burrow looks gooood this year. Not sure what changed. I don't think he'll go 1, but if those 2 teams finish 1/2 he'll go 2. Seeing LJ and Murray do fine in the NFL makes me think Hurts could end up going earlier than originally thought. 36 total TDs already, he's a major dual threat issue. Lawrence probably sticks for another year - too much talent coming out and the 8 picks isn't exactly a great number to look at. At the same time, he shredded bama in the title game a year ago.. thats pretty impressive. 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Ah, like an upgraded Derek Anderson 2nd QB coach type? I could get behind that. I mean Eli has been around, hes won a couple super bowls... i dont think he'd come here tho. He's probably done. Flacco maybe? He seems to have lost that QB clock in the last couple of years. Just can't get out of his own way. 1
Captain Hindsight Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Gugny said: In their very brief history with the Bills, the only player I think McDermott/Beane dragged their feet on getting rid of was Kelvin Benjamin. They absolutely did not draw the Zay project on for too long, in my opinion. Even Kelvin only lasted about a year. Once they were eliminated from playoff contention they went full evaluation mode and released him. I thought it was pretty quick
Figster Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, dneveu said: Burrow looks gooood this year. Not sure what changed. I don't think he'll go 1, but if those 2 teams finish 1/2 he'll go 2. Seeing LJ and Murray do fine in the NFL makes me think Hurts could end up going earlier than originally thought. 36 total TDs already, he's a major dual threat issue. Lawrence probably sticks for another year - too much talent coming out and the 8 picks isn't exactly a great number to look at. At the same time, he shredded bama in the title game a year ago.. thats pretty impressive. Hurts has been absolutely amazing, even in the loss. Should give you some idea on how the best coach in college football feels about Tua.
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2019 Author Posted October 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, dneveu said: Burrow looks gooood this year. Not sure what changed. I don't think he'll go 1, but if those 2 teams finish 1/2 he'll go 2. Seeing LJ and Murray do fine in the NFL makes me think Hurts could end up going earlier than originally thought. 36 total TDs already, he's a major dual threat issue. Lawrence probably sticks for another year - too much talent coming out and the 8 picks isn't exactly a great number to look at. At the same time, he shredded bama in the title game a year ago.. thats pretty impressive. New OC Joe Brady, who will have NFL offers this offseason
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, teef said: seriously? look how long? he was in his third year. his first year was lousy, and his second year he had significant improvement. he lead the team in wr production, and was even more productive than watkins. he didn't show this year so he was gone before the midway mark of the season. should they have cut him after last year? of course not. to say they dragged on the zay pick is nonsense and isn't even a valid argument. you try too hard. I dunno, many fans myself included saw that Jones was an issue right from the start. I am guessing that front office personnel saw the same thing, they were just reluctant to act because he was one of their picks, vs. say Watkins, they didn't bat an eye when they wanted to make a change there.
teef Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: I dunno, many fans myself included saw that Jones was an issue right from the start. I am guessing that front office personnel saw the same thing, they were just reluctant to act because he was one of their picks, vs. say Watkins, they didn't bat an eye when they wanted to make a change there. oh, so after seeing improvement from year one to year two, you just knew year three was going to be bad? no you didn't, and the coaching staff did the right thing by at least giving him playing time this year to see what happens. watkins was let go because he had time prior to show he wasn't worth the money. two different situations. i think you know this.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 Andy Dalton said agent tried to facilitate a trade ahead of deadline Posted by Josh Alper on October 30, 2019, 11:55 AM EDT Quarterback Andy Dalton isn’t thrilled about being benched by the Bengals, but it appears he’s also unhappy with the timing of the move. Dalton spoke to reporters on Wednesday about Tuesday’s announcement that fourth-round pick Ryan Finley will be taking over as the starter once the team returns from their bye week. “I don’t agree with the decision but I’m going do everything I can to help the team,” Dalton said, via Paul Dehner of TheAthletic.com. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/30/andy-dalton-said-agent-tried-to-facilitate-a-trade-ahead-of-deadline/#comments
Jauronimo Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 23 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He threw a bunch of picks a couple weeks ago. He’s the type of QB who can be really good with a really good supporting cast. If he doesn’t have that, he can’t overcome it. I think that describes the QB situation around the league. The truly elite QBs are all in the twilight of their careers and whats left are a bunch of guys who can be great in the right situation but cannot carry a team. 3 hours ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Just because a team makes a player the #7th pick, doesn't mean that player is worthy of that draft status, and hanging on too long just wastes guys like Hyde & Poyer. Wasting the prime of Poyer and Hyde?!?! FleaMoulds 98 and rising. 1
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, teef said: oh, so after seeing improvement from year one to year two, you just knew year three was going to be bad? no you didn't, and the coaching staff did the right thing by at least giving him playing time this year to see what happens. watkins was let go because he had time prior to show he wasn't worth the money. two different situations. i think you know this. Jones only had a few decent games last season, the rest of the game reflected his poor catch %. He sucked, fans knew it, and I'm sure the coaches did too. Giving up on a player in year two that they drafted is a bad look for them, that's why they hung on, probably why they will do the same with Allen, only it won't be 3 years more like 5. Self preservation of jobs in the FO is not in the best interest of the team, yet we see it constantly, it's annoying. Some players drafted, yes, you can know quite early on they are just not going to make it in the NFL, Jones was one of those players.
416BillsFan Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I see his point, but I think Ryan Pace already spent the whole day listening to agents of disgruntled QBs telling him how much better their client is than The Biscuit.
teef Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Jones only had a few decent games last season, the rest of the game reflected his poor catch %. He sucked, fans knew it, and I'm sure the coaches did too. Giving up on a player in year two that they drafted is a bad look for them, that's why they hung on, probably why they will do the same with Allen, only it won't be 3 years more like 5. Self preservation of jobs in the FO is not in the best interest of the team, yet we see it constantly, it's annoying. Some players drafted, yes, you can know quite early on they are just not going to make it in the NFL, Jones was one of those players. last year he had almost 700yrs and 7 tds. that doesn't suck. it's not all star level, but what you're saying isn't true. the staff holding onto zay because it was a bad look for them to move him is nothing more than something you've made up, and keep sticking too for some reason. when exactly do you think they should have moved on from zay then? after last season? again, you're trying too hard.
One Buffalo Posted October 30, 2019 Posted October 30, 2019 You can hear the frustration in his voice... not well handled by the organization.
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