Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: i guess they're chasing the dolphins for that 1st pick And Fitz is perfect for that. Fans love his grit and galvanizing play. But he’ll still lock up the loss when it matters. 1
blacklabel Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, teef said: It hasn’t even been 2 full years yet. We all know he needs improvement, but just settle down. Didn't you know that you find out all you need to know about a QB after 17 career starts? It's the precise amount of games where you'll be able to definitively ascertain that the player is exactly what he is, cannot improve, cannot progress, and must be kicked to the curb in order to start all over again with someone else. Sheesh man, thought you knew this with your fancy toof degree and everything. ? 1
DCofNC Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: "Bridge QB" or "good game manager" fits him well. So many "haters" have called Allen a bust from day one. My own concern, is that he becomes a guy on Dalton's level, or Stafford's, Flacco's. etc.: quite good but not great. Good enough you don't want to get rid of him, but not great enough for the higher level games. I'm not saying that's what will happen! Just that it's my concern. Josh is already a better QB we've had for years and years. You have to go back to Beldsoe & Flutie. And he's still learning! Bengals are dumb IF they don't have another option already though. KC could change from Alex Smith as they had Mahomes. The Panthers and Jaguars now see they have another option at QB. Do the Bengals have one? Josh Allen is not regarded as a better QB than Andy Dalton by ANYONE outside of delusional Bills fans. Right now, Josh Allen is a bottom 5 starter in this league. There's a distinct difference between potential and reality and that seems to be a lost concept to a lot of you. 1 1
ColoradoBills Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: They are out tanking the Dolphins I think so. 1 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 Andy has thrown 115 more passes than Josh Allen this season. Both have 9 TDs and Dalton has 1 more INT. Honestly, if Allen throws 0 TDs and 1 int in his next 115 passes I hope he's benched too... 2
prissythecat Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Yeah, there's a guy on this board who would take him just for that, because he'd rather see a Bills QB throw for over 300 yards than a Bills win. Da Bears have to take a look. See below thread. Once you can throw for 300 yards , you join an elite club ?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Finley is never going to be the answer. My suspicion is that they're eyeing Miami and noticing that that Fitz might actually gut out a win or two for the Phins (Fitz did it for the 0-8 Bills in 2010, after all). At 0-8, they have a chance to get the inside track on getting #1, and they don't want to miss that chance. Either that, or they're sending up a clear smoke signal that if a talented team with a hole at QB wants to send them a pick today, they are manning the phones. Or maybe they're already talking. 1
Seasons1992 Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Either 100% Bengals front office incompetence or they are in tank mode. The answer to this is "yes."
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Funny how long it takes these organizations to realize Quarterback X isn't good enough. How many years did Cinci waste spinning wheels with Dalton and Mavin Lewis before this? How many years did Miami kill waiting for Tannehill to get good? How many years will the Bills waste waiting for Josh Allen to be less "raw" and "gain experience"? We'll find out I guess! I love how you put “gain experience” in quotes, as if there’s another way to do it aside from waiting. “Gain immediate and absolute experience in 1.5 years”
Seasons1992 Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Either that, or they're sending up a clear smoke signal that if a talented team with a hole at QB wants to send them a pick today, they are manning the phones. Or maybe they're already talking. The Bengals don't have a GM. I'd be shocked if anyone was even there to pick up the phone.
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) I was late to the party and brought another Elway joke... Edited October 29, 2019 by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Either 100% Bengals front office incompetence or they are in tank mode. Broncos, Bears, Buccaneers bound. Tick tick tick....
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Not this is a tank job..... It's a mother tiger eating her young (old) to survive
Happy Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Sounds like he is going to the Saints. Doubt it. The Saints have Teddy Bridgewater, who did a great job in Brees' absence, waiting in the wings.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Josh Allen is not regarded as a better QB than Andy Dalton by ANYONE outside of delusional Bills fans. Right now, Josh Allen is a bottom 5 starter in this league. There's a distinct difference between potential and reality and that seems to be a lost concept to a lot of you. I guess this is my nomination for Unintended Irony of the Week. The potential is that Allen just made his 18th start; the reality is that he's regarded as a raw young QB with a high ceiling who has shown improvement and has yet to show where that ceiling is. The reality is that Andy Dalton is a 9 year vet with 128 starts and he's not going to get any better from this point on; in fact, without a true #1 WR target he'll arguably get worse. Very very few young QBs in this league can match up every week with a veteran QB, because savvy and experience can make ground on high energy and a big arm. That's why 15 year journeymen like Fitzy can still have jobs. 4 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: The Bengals don't have a GM. I'd be shocked if anyone was even there to pick up the phone. They have someone in the building who responds to AJ Green trade queries. 1
BITE ME Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: Doubt it. The Saints have Teddy Bridgewater, who did a great job in Brees' absence, waiting in the wings. Not Dalton. AJ Green. When something like this gets written somebody is trying to make something happen. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/10/28/a-j-green-new-orleans-saints-bengals-may-trade-deadline-per-cbs/2493043001/
Mango Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 If I am Buffalo, I actually consider this move in the offseason to improve the QB room. This isn't a bad football team, but it isn't very good either. Next year we will need better QB play to win 10+ games. Allen will either be good enough by then, or we will be talking about drafting a new one in 2021. Dalton could be a good insurance policy for 2020. 2020 Opponents: MIA x2 NYJ x2 NE x2 DEN KC OAK ARI LAC LAR SF SEA PIT (if the season ended today) HOU (if the season ended today)
Chicken Boo Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 46 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He is not the problem there. He's part of it. Dalton has had some really good teams and has never been able to get it done. He's not awful, but he's not the answer either.
Happy Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Not Dalton. AJ Green. When something like this gets written somebody is trying to make something happen. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/10/28/a-j-green-new-orleans-saints-bengals-may-trade-deadline-per-cbs/2493043001/ Ah, I see. Well if the Saints are interested in an injured 31 WR, so be it. The article also states the Bengals are listening for offers for Cordy Glenn, who I could see gets moved before AJ Green.
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