whorlnut Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, hjnick said: Leveon for a 3rd rounder? Sounds about right... I’d be all over that. My guess is it will take a 2 though since he’s in our division.
whatdrought Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: If other teams we are competing with make impactful moves, and we don't, it will not be well received. If by not well received, you mean there will be Luddites around here bemoaning that we're not doing anything and we want to lose, then yes. But if you mean not well received by people who understand football and know that you don't make a trade just because other teams are, then no. 1
BritBill Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 I’d give them a first for Bell if they promised to keep Gase for another year or two. 1 6 1
Boatdrinks Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: If other teams we are competing with make impactful moves, and we don't, it will not be well received. Agree. This is not about making a move just to make one. It’s about trying for a playoff run this year while also improving the team going forward. FA may not be enough, the draft might not give immediate help at WR and next year’s schedule isn’t as easy. In short , this year matters. 1
thenorthremembers Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 Something to consider as big names like Gordon and Bell are flying around. The Bills currently have players on their roster who will match the production of the following players from 2018: Brandin Cooks, Golden Tate, Lamar Miller, Austin Ekeler and Ben Watson. Brown=Cooks, Beasley=Tate, Gore=Miller, Singletary=Ekeler, and Knox=Watson. Always good to get more talent, and they need it. But sometimes its good to take a look from the outside in to see what you really have.
Beast Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) Stay away from Bell. 3.2 Yards per carry after sitting a year out. Right now he is a below average RB with a high salary. Edited October 29, 2019 by Binghamton Beast 4
SJDK Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 We need a big DT who can some penetration. Young good WR is the only thing we should spend $’s on. Not bell nor Green. Give Motor the ball more, that’s our ticket. Maybe Lorax replacement to groom for next year.
ColoradoBills Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, hjnick said: Leveon for a 3rd rounder? Sounds about right... 7 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I’d be all over that. My guess is it will take a 2 though since he’s in our division. OK, first off I almost never want the Bills to go after these type of players BUT lets look at the idea. Whatever team would make a trade (if it will happen) will get a 16.5 million off the guarantees. That's the amount (Spotrac) posts. It's still a lot for a player that may or may not regain his former status but it would more or less be a "pay as you go" contract with no real risk. Would Le'Veon like leaving the Jets and would he feel good leaving a team with a coach that doesn't want him? It is something to think about. Bell and Singletary could be a tough duo. Risk would be the pick the Jets would want. Edited October 29, 2019 by ColoradoBills
Coach Tuesday Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 Bell to the Bills would tip the whole division in our favor. The Jets would be announcing to their locker room and the league that they're in full rebuilding mode under Gase - they'd implode for 2-3 years. The Dolphins are already there. Bell would force the Patriots to actually gameplan against the Bills on defense and would give Daboll a true chess piece to move around. He'd also take a TON of pressure off of Allen. I'd trade a 2nd and 3rd for him in a heartbeat and never look back. That said, I don't want Singletary (or Gore, but less likely) going to the Jets in return. 3
buffalo2218 Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Bell to the Bills would tip the whole division in our favor. The Jets would be announcing to their locker room and the league that they're in full rebuilding mode under Gase - they'd implode for 2-3 years. The Dolphins are already there. Bell would force the Patriots to actually gameplan against the Bills on defense and would give Daboll a true chess piece to move around. He'd also take a TON of pressure off of Allen. I'd trade a 2nd and 3rd for him in a heartbeat and never look back. That said, I don't want Singletary (or Gore, but less likely) going to the Jets in return. I think Beane is a quite a bit too enamoured with Singletary to even think about trading him, especially to a division rival. But as tantalizing as it is to think of Bell in Buffalo, he'd probably end up punching Daboll out at some point
Warcodered Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Stay away from Bell. 3.2 Yards per carry after sitting a year out. Right now he is a below average RB with a high salary. That's a little unfair he's basically their offense and everyone knows it. 1
MiltonWaddams Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Something to consider as big names like Gordon and Bell are flying around. The Bills currently have players on their roster who will match the production of the following players from 2018: Brandin Cooks, Golden Tate, Lamar Miller, Austin Ekeler and Ben Watson. Brown=Cooks, Beasley=Tate, Gore=Miller, Singletary=Ekeler, and Knox=Watson. Always good to get more talent, and they need it. But sometimes its good to take a look from the outside in to see what you really have. Like so many of us have alluded to, what is holding this team back has a lot to do with scheme and not talent. Daboll was a pre-season hot name in the coaching ranks. Based on what this offense has produced, there is no chance that he is even remotely a hot name now.
SCBills Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 Daboll thinking about how much attention Bell will draw, making our QB runs even more effective. 1 7 1
NewEra Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Stay away from Bell. 3.2 Yards per carry after sitting a year out. Right now he is a below average RB with a high salary. Worst take in the thread imo. A running backs stats doesn’t account for their status in the league. See Dalvin Cook. Last year, no OL. He was a bum. This year, much improved OL and he’s good. So much goes into a RBs success that has nothing to do with the RB himself. Bell has a high salary and is considered overpaid? Sure to say “right now, he is a below average running back” is just ignorant. Edited October 29, 2019 by NewEra 4
MiltonWaddams Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Daboll thinking about how much attention Bell will draw, making our QB runs even more effective. Sadly, this.
Coach Tuesday Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: Like so many of us have alluded to, what is holding this team back has a lot to do with scheme and not talent. Daboll was a pre-season hot name in the coaching ranks. Based on what this offense has produced, there is no chance that he is even remotely a hot name now. That's totally wrong, I'm sorry. The biggest problem on offense - by far - is the lack of talent to create favorable matchups. Daboll hasn't been great (some great games, some terrible like Sunday) but he's had very little to work with. Bracket John Brown and the whole offense shuts down. That needs to change - they need a serious talent influx ASAP if this team is going to be competitive in December and January. 1 1
BITE ME Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) The Bills are clearly not trying to win a Super Bowl this year. They proved they are a paper tiger this past Sunday. Watch the game again. The Bills will NEVER beat a top tier team with this offense and defense. They probably could get AJ Green or Bell and still get knocked out in the 1st round. Perhaps it is best to just stay put and wait for next year and keep building through the draft. You can't beat good teams with mediocre offensive and defensive lines. Edited October 29, 2019 by FUTURIST
MiltonWaddams Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: That's totally wrong, I'm sorry. The biggest problem on offense - by far - is the lack of talent to create favorable matchups. Daboll hasn't been great (some great games, some terrible like Sunday) but he's had very little to work with. Bracket John Brown and the whole offense shuts down. That needs to change - they need a serious talent influx ASAP if this team is going to be competitive in December and January. I rewatched the game last night from Sunday. I am very well aware that this is a horrible example of a game plan, but the number of times players would be open and Josh would be following his reads to not see them has to be solely placed on the way that Daboll is running the play. While your statement that the team needs more talent is 100% accurate, if we just bring in talent to the scheme, that is hardly an answer. Daboll needs to be better or he needs to go 3
whatdrought Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, FUTURIST said: The Bills are clearly not trying to win a Super Bowl this year. They proved they are a paper tiger this past Sunday. Watch the game again. The Bills will NEVER beat a top tier team with this offense and defense. They probably could get AJ Green or Bell and still get knocked out in the 1st round. Perhaps it is best to just stay put and wait for next year and keep building through the draft. Stupid.
MiltonWaddams Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Stupid. Elaborate
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