Week#9 Thread Bills vs. Redskins

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Smh the excuses people make are astounding. Brown is open even if the roll out is the opposite way. He has plenty of room behind him to be thrown even more open than he is. It’s a throw an nfl qb should be able to make, especially one with a strong arm like josh. 

Nope. The LB is not fooled, ( he’s looking right at Allen before Brown even looks back) would jump the throw and be headed to the end zone. He was supposed to be drawn in by the run action to the weak side.  Then you’d be complaining about the “ horrible , stupid pick 6 “ that Josh threw there. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Nope. The LB is not fooled, ( he’s looking right at Allen before Brown even looks back) would jump the throw and be headed to the end zone. He was supposed to be drawn in by the run action to the weak side.  Then you’d be complaining about the “ horrible , stupid pick 6 “ that Josh threw there. 

It’s a play nfl qbs routinely make. A touch pass with a little air under it gets it to brown easily. Can even throw it behind him where there’s nobody within 10 yards because he stops his route in the open spot. The only player he needs to get the ball over is the D-Lineman 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos

[Boatdrinks]

20 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

It’s a play nfl qbs routinely make. A touch pass with a little air under it gets it to brown easily. Can even throw it behind him where there’s nobody within 10 yards because he stops his route in the open spot. The only player he needs to get the ball over is the D-Lineman 

A “ touch pass” with a little air under it there is a nice juicy INT for that LB , and was exactly what he was hoping for. He had a great angle to jump it  and Brown wouldn’t have even seen it. Wise no throw by Josh. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

A “ touch pass” with a little air under it there is a nice juicy INT for that LB , and was exactly what he was hoping for. He had a great angle to jump it  and Brown wouldn’t have even seen it. Wise no throw by Josh. 

The lb that’s a couple yards under and behind? ?

 

 

Why can other nfl qbs make that throw all the time but with josh it’s excuse after excuse why he misses open receivers.

Edited November 2, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos

[Boatdrinks]

7 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

The lb that’s a couple yards under and behind? ?

 

 

Why can other nfl qbs make that throw all the time but with josh it’s excuse after excuse why he misses open receivers.

No receiver was missed on this play. I’m sure there were many plays vs Eagles where Allen didn’t perform well or made a bad decision etc. This was not one of them . 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[YoloinOhio]

56 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Man....that  plane must have every skins fan that gonna be in attendance then, because I’ve seen a couple of their games while scrolling through the ticket and they can’t even get half their stadium full of their own fan base. 

Exactly. Not saying that guy is lying but one of the worst fan bases in the NFL is going to follow their 1-7 team to ....Buffalo? in November?  

[Locomark]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Exactly. Not saying that guy is lying but one of the worst fan bases in the NFL is going to follow their 1-7 team to ....Buffalo? in November?  

More likely to be an episode of “Punked” then reality. I’m guessing maybe he is on the presidential committee for crowd size estimating. 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Locomark

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

It’s a play nfl qbs routinely make. A touch pass with a little air under it gets it to brown easily. Can even throw it behind him where there’s nobody within 10 yards because he stops his route in the open spot. The only player he needs to get the ball over is the D-Lineman 

 

Are you seriously suggesting that Allen should have thrown a "touch pass with a little air under it" on that SPECIFIC play?  I'm sorry but Allen Derangement Syndrome is real.

 

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

15 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Are you seriously suggesting that Allen should have thrown a "touch pass with a little air under it" on that SPECIFIC play?  I'm sorry but Allen Derangement Syndrome is real.

 

 

The ball just needed to make it over the defensive lineman. So in other words not a straight line. Good god you people love to twist words to make it something it’s not. 

 

Simple things like leading a receiver and touch are completely lost on a lot of you people. Good thing none of you have anything to do with sports in general

 

Edit- I like Allen as our QB. I’m not saying he’s terrible or won’t ever be good. He’s good enough to win games now. But I’m not satisfied with good enough like most of the people on this board.  

 

I’m saying he has to work on things. One of them is making quick decisions. He doesn’t seem to trust what he’s seeing or second guesses and window of opportunity closes. It’s been happening since he got here and is getting worse. He has a strong arm, good enough accuracy and a very quick release  to make any throw on the field including the throw I’m talking about on this play. 

 

He will try to force a ball into coverage when running backwards and throwing off of his back foot but won’t force one in when he has his feet set and enough time time to throw.

 

Qbs in the nfl have to be able to make quick decision tight window throws. 

 

Edited November 2, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos

[r00tabaga]

9 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

The ball just needed to make it over the defensive lineman. So in other words not a straight line. Good god you people love to twist words to make it something it’s not. 

 

Simple things like leading a receiver and touch are completely lost on a lot of you people. Good thing none of you have anything to do with sports in general

 

Edit- I like Allen as our QB. I’m not saying he’s terrible or won’t ever be good. He’s good enough to win games now. But I’m not satisfied with good enough like most of the people on this board.  

 

I’m saying he has to work on things. One of them is making quick decisions. He doesn’t seem to trust what he’s seeing or second guesses and window of opportunity closes. It’s been happening since he got here and is getting worse. He has a strong arm, good enough accuracy and a very quick release  to make any throw on the field including the throw I’m talking about on this play. 

 

Qbs in the nfl have to be able to make quick decision tight window throws. 

 

This guy.  LOL-

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

2 minutes ago, r00tabaga said:

This guy.  LOL-

 

People said the same thing when I pointed out Trent, ej and tyrod were missing open receivers. Attack all you want but josh needs work. 

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

People said the same thing when I pointed out Trent, ej and tyrod were missing open receivers. Attack all you want but josh needs work. 

He does, but with his hero ball INT issues and the like, I’m okay with him not throwing late over the middle. Especially when rolling out. I’m sure the Bills have been coaching some discretion into his game. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

52 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Are you seriously suggesting that Allen should have thrown a "touch pass with a little air under it" on that SPECIFIC play?  I'm sorry but Allen Derangement Syndrome is real.

 

 

Ball just needs to make it past the unblocked DL and delivered to the X. What’s so difficult about this throw?  The safety is moving to the right. Brown reads that and stops in the open zone.

Edited November 2, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos

[Warcodered]

7 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Ball just needs to make it past the unblocked DL and delivered to the X. What’s so difficult about this throw?  The safety is moving to the right. Brown reads that and stops in the open zone.

Watch the replay that defender to the right isn't moving very fast and is watching Allen. When Allen looks Brown's way for a second look at what the defender does he was not open.

[Saxum]

On 10/31/2019 at 1:34 PM, clayboy54 said:

 

Shouldn’t they be freezing them in banks of snow? Everyone in the country thinks it is always snowing in Buffalo!  LOL

 

They should borrow the snowblowers from ski resorts for the games.

[Saxum]

On 10/31/2019 at 11:03 PM, Chandemonium said:

I don’t know why, But it seems like we haven’t had a solid screen game since Chan’s offense for whatever reason. 

 

On 10/31/2019 at 11:05 PM, Dr. Who said:

I agree. It's puzzling and annoying, because it's proven as an effective counter against aggressive defenses.

 

I thought Chan was good at designing plays but poor at calling them.  I see reason for his recommendation to Bills.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Exactly. Not saying that guy is lying but one of the worst fan bases in the NFL is going to follow their 1-7 team to ....Buffalo? in November?  

They might be following only because of Haskins. Giving themselves hope, only thing I can think of

[Franco_92]

1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

People said the same thing when I pointed out Trent, ej and tyrod were missing open receivers. Attack all you want but josh needs work. 

Retreating back to you being right about old bad QBs (as if it wasn't the consensus belief among a majority of bills fans back then, as if you deserve a pat on the back for it) is a goofy way to try and defend your point on a particular play, which much-more-in-depth analysis by a whole bunch of posters in this thread has demonstrated as incorrect and shallowly understood.

If you found this exact play from Trent Edwards tape, you'd still be wrong about the conclusion of THAT PLAY, for the same reasons.

It's a bad look to keep coming back to the idea that "you said the same thing about old bad QBs we used to have," as justification, as if that has any relevance to your lack of understanding of the reads on this play, and as if that was a unique take to have at the time. It earns you no clout. 

Edited November 2, 2019 by arcane

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Exactly. Not saying that guy is lying but one of the worst fan bases in the NFL is going to follow their 1-7 team to ....Buffalo? in November?  

I’m watching these scrubs come in as we text