TwistofFate Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) For all those clamouring about offensive play calling, the players seem to think completely differently. For a few weeks, it’s been tough sledding for Buffalo offensive coordinator Brian Daboll. The Western New York native that’s in charge of the Bills’ offensive scheming hasn’t been in the good graces of the fan base. Much of that centers around quarterback runs by Josh Allen. Some passing plays and usage of rookie running back Devin Singletry can also be tossed in there. But the Bills aren’t complaining internally. Wide receiver Cole Beasley specifically didn’t place any blame on Daboll. “It has nothing to do with play-calling or anything like that. It’s the Willies and the Joes, man, you know what I mean? Not the Xs and Os. We’ve just got to get it right,” Beasley told reporters following the game. Center Mitch Morse also echoed that with the Buffalo News. “I ride with our coaches. For me, whatever play call they call, you run it,” Morse said. But prior to the game last Monday on Oct. 21, Daboll did defend some of his strategies, specifically his designed running packages with quarterback Josh Allen. “Some of those runs (vs. Miami) that were designed really helped us situationally, third and short, one early down it got us some, and then the two-point conversion. I don’t think you live in that world too much, but we have a guy that can do those things. He gives you extra blockers and things like that. You just have to be judicious with it, and Josh does too, in terms of minimizing our hit,” Daboll said. The biggest issue with Allen rushing the ball has been ball security. As a rookie, he fumbled the ball eight times in that entire season. He’s already at eight this year, including three multi-fumble games. The No. 1 way the second-year QB has to improve is ball security. Allen’s also had seven interception, too. Surpassing 300 yards passing would be nice as well. While not specifically asked about the play-calling following the loss, Allen did take the brunt of plenty of blame plenty of times. “A performance like this won’t cut it. We didn’t play to our standard. Obviously, we played a pretty good team today and we know that, they know that, but at the same time, we still have to play up to how we know we can play,” Allen said. “I have be better with taking care of the football,” he added. billswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/28/cole-beasley-buffalo-bills-offense-doesnt-problem Edited October 30, 2019 by Hapless Bills Fan Fixed font size and hyperlink to article 1
IDBillzFan Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 "Surpassing 300 yards passing would be nice as well." I wish they would have started the article with this line so I would have stopped reading it sooner. 10 4
BmarvB Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 I still question his lack of run calls and the underuse of Singletary as well as not using Beasley in the same manner the Pats use Edleman (and used to use Wes Welker when he was there) 3
MJS Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 That's what high character players WOULD say to the media. They aren't going to go on there and trash their coach. 10 1 1
TwistofFate Posted October 28, 2019 Author Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, MJS said: That's what high character players WOULD say to the media. They aren't going to go on there and trash their coach. Its the willys and the joes, not the Xs and Os. Clear as day, and it starts with our turnover, fumblitis Qb who cant break a 300 yard game against the worst secondaries in the league. 1
Virgil Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) I don’t believe any of this unless the team is in total chaos. Players take up for their teammates and coaches while they are still together. If either left the team, I think you might hear different things Edited October 28, 2019 by Virgil 2
H2o Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 Allen cuts down on the INT's and now it's the fumbles. It's not the playcalling, it's the people running the plays despite the fact that Stevie Wonder can see Daboll doesn't understand situational football and is calling the same dumb week in and week out. 1
Selron Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 The play calling at times is brilliant and other times it's awful. Execution is part of it so it all is not Daboll, but hitting 300 soon and repeating it would be nice. 1 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, TwistofFate said: For all those clamouring about offensive play calling, the players seem to think completely differently. For a few weeks, it’s been tough sledding for Buffalo offensive coordinator Brian Daboll. The Western New York native that’s in charge of the Bills’ offensive scheming hasn’t been in the good graces of the fan base. Much of that centers around quarterback runs by Josh Allen. Some passing plays and usage of rookie running back Devin Singletry can also be tossed in there. But the Bills aren’t complaining internally. Wide receiver Cole Beasley specifically didn’t place any blame on Daboll. “It has nothing to do with play-calling or anything like that. It’s the Willies and the Joes, man, you know what I mean? Not the Xs and Os. We’ve just got to get it right,” Beasley told reporters following the game. Center Mitch Morse also echoed that with the Buffalo News. “I ride with our coaches. For me, whatever play call they call, you run it,” Morse said. I mean, these are good team guys, do you really expect them to throw their OC or position coaches under the bus publically, in front of the media? That's weak sauce. Weak sauce players and selfish players roll that way. 3 2
Boatdrinks Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, TwistofFate said: Its the willys and the joes, not the Xs and Os. Clear as day, and it starts with our turnover, fumblitis Qb who cant break a 300 yard game against the worst secondaries in the league. The Willies and the Joes got manhandled on both lines yesterday, and they know it. There was sloppy execution all the way around and most of it had little to do with Josh Allen. He’s got to be better with ball security, as his habits when carrying it have been broken down endlessly and teams are making an emphasis to take it away. While the players may not state it openly, some decisions by the staff ( Daboll in particular ) have been suspect to say the least. For example, Im not sure why Daboll wants his QB running a sweep backed up in their own territory when teams are trying to strip him of the football. Maybe you’d like the RB getting a carry there.
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 Well what do you expect the players to say? Our OC sucks? These are professionals who will not disrupt the locker room. They are well prepped for PR, and it shows. 2 1
jlgarsh Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 I just don't get why Gore got few Carries when he was getting positive yardage. I'll give Allen and Singletary the benefit of the doubt on ball security yesterday. With the rain and winds wasn't sure about the high volume passing game plan. I was surprised they went for it on 4th and 10 at the 30 yard line though. Hauschka barely missed from 53.
Nuncha Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 When your QB gets more planned run plays than your second RB, and your starting RB has 9 carries - you have offensive play calling problems. 6 1
BananaB Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, jlgarsh said: I just don't get why Gore got few Carries when he was getting positive yardage. I'll give Allen and Singletary the benefit of the doubt on ball security yesterday. With the rain and winds wasn't sure about the high volume passing game plan. I was surprised they went for it on 4th and 10 at the 30 yard line though. Hauschka barely missed from 53. Our run game being focused around Gore is one of our biggest problems. He’s got a spot on this team but it is not as lead RB.
Nuncha Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, BananaB said: Our run game being focused around Gore is one of our biggest problems. He’s got a spot on this team but it is not as lead RB. I really feel like they are seriously limiting Gore's carries because of his age. That's fine but you can't abandon the run because Gore is old. Get Singletary going - he has shown he can make plays when needed. 1
cgg716 Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 So you’re surprised a player gave a diplomatic answer, did you expect him to throw Daboll under the bus?
BananaB Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: I really feel like they are seriously limiting Gore's carries because of his age. That's fine but you can't abandon the run because Gore is old. Get Singletary going - he has shown he can make plays when needed. Gore just ain’t a threat. He’s a hard down hill runner but teams aren’t worried about him breaking through the line. If we pound him he’s still gonna have his carries for no gain that will back us up at some point. He had 3 carries for no gain in the first half yesterday on 7 carries. He’ll get lot of small yards but he’s not gonna get many big runs. He’s had close to 100 carries and has 3 carries over 20 yards, Singletary has 3 over 20 yards and he’s had about 1/5 the amount of carries.... So who is the bigger threat to an opposing defence? It seems as the game goes on and we need more plays they take Gore out anyway. If he’s not the guy you want on the field when when you need to score, he shouldn’t be the guy on the field to start the game... JMO 1
Luka Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 Flacco blasted the coaching staff in Denver and he's now benched. So I mean, for you to expect anything but "positive" remarks from the locker room to the media is pretty naive.
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 My problem is less with the play calling and more with the fact that the plays are largely poorly designed. The Bills have almost zero easy plays causing the announcers or anyone else to say " that was a well designed play"
CincyBillsFan Posted October 29, 2019 Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, H2o said: Allen cuts down on the INT's and now it's the fumbles. Yep the never ending changing of the goal posts with Allen. On the fumbles: * The first was when a DE fly's by our tackle as if he wasn't there and swats the ball out of Allen's hand. Allen makes a great play to recover it. * The designed sweep was playing Allen as a RB which he isn't. When we surprised teams with that play early in the season he rumbled for 10 yards or a TD and never really got hit. On that play it was obvious the Eagles expected it and their whole D was flying to the ball. There were all sorts of body's in there and the Allen fumble shouldn't be that surprising under the circumstances. * The last one was when he got WHACKED from behind trying to throw deep down by 18 in the 4th quarter. * People seem to forget that Wendtz also fumbled after being sacked but was fortunate that the ball bounced right back up to him.
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