atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) I remember hearing that Daboll was going to move down to the field for games this year over the summer. At first I thought this was a good idea IF he and Josh have a good relationship. After watching them through the first half of the season, I don’t believe that’s the case. Id like to see someone who is a bit calmer and more positive as the first interaction Josh has when he comes off the field. Daboll yelling at Josh isn’t good for anyone. Many of us guys 40+ are managing a new generation. It’s not like it was before, even on the football field. Part of this is the amount of exposure and cameras everywhere. I don’t see Daboll’s style working very well with younger players. Daboll in the booth allows him some space from Josh after a mistake. The QB coach on the sideline keeps Josh focused and up. Daboll can rip Josh in the film room the next day away from cameras. Edited October 28, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 3 1
Bray Wyatt Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 Daboll moved down to the sidelines after the Colts game last year
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Daboll moved down to the sidelines after the Colts game last year Ok. My bad. Well that game last year was the Colts ‘get right’ game. Kind of like yesterday may turn out to be the Eagles. It just doesn’t seem to be working this year. Play calling has not been great. Maybe the change up will help. Edited October 28, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I don’t think it matters I don't see how it can hurt. He might be quicker to adjust his scheme if he can get the aerial view of what's happening as it happens. And I agree that at times, I think he's not constructive with Josh at times on the sideline. He had a reputation at one point for "losing it" and just becoming an over the top screamer in Cleveland. Sometimes "calm breeds calm" is needed. Last year we didn't have a "real" QB coach he could depend upon, this year supposedly we do. 4
Bangarang Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't see how it can hurt. He might be quicker to adjust his scheme if he can get the aerial view of what's happening as it happens. And I agree that at times, I think he's not constructive with Josh at times on the sideline. He had a reputation at one point for "losing it" and just becoming an "over the top screamer". Last year we didn't have a "real" QB coach he could depend upon, this year supposedly we do. He’s been a bad OC every chance he’s gotten in the NFL. This is probably just who he is regardless of where he’s sitting. 4 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 The ‘penalty’ box? ? * I wonder if Chan is doing anything? Then again, he’s probably back fixing up the General Lee for the Duke cousins. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He’s been a bad OC every chance he’s gotten in the NFL. This is probably just who he is regardless of where he’s sitting. You may be right, but it seems like something it couldn't hurt to try. Daboll puzzles me, as I've said elsewhere. At times, he has very well designed plays. At times, he makes clever use of personnel. At other times - Aye Carumba! Overall he reminds me of the coaching version of Whaley's roster. It's not that Whaley didn't bring in talented players. He did. (He whiffed on some, but so does every GM including Beane). It's just that the sum total of the players and roster Whaley assembled never formed a complete team. I think McDermott really needs to mix it in more on the O side of the ball and give his perspective from the D side into the play and gameplan design. 2
Matt_In_NH Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) This will solve Josh's issues to read and throw in rhythm? Edited October 28, 2019 by mattynh
BillnutinHouston Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 Was in the stadium and haven't watched the telecast. Was Daboll berating Allen yesterday on camera?
Jerry Jabber Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 I'm losing faith in Daboll. His playcalling has been erratic this season (I'd say 40% positive plays, 60% negative). I do think that Daboll should go upstairs as it might help him with his playcalling. The first offensive series, Philly's D was stacked at the line waiting for the run, but the Bills still went ahead and tried to pound it out which was mindboggling. 1
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jerry Jabber said: I'm losing faith in Daboll. His playcalling has been erratic this season (I'd say 40% positive plays, 60% negative). I do think that Daboll should go upstairs as it might help him with his playcalling. The first offensive series, Philly's D was stacked at the line waiting for the run, but the Bills still went ahead and tried to pound it out which was mindboggling. This, The Bills need a true #1 WR so teams will respect the pass and stop stacking the box 1
Jerry Jabber Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Or go get a true #1 WR That would also help, plus another pass catching TE. I think Brown would be a great #2 WR, Beasley #3. 1
MarkAF43 Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 I think a big problem is not using Singletary enough, and even when they do bring him in, it's easy to see what's coming. Swing passes, outside runs. When Gore is in, you know the ball is being run up the middle. When Singletary is in, the ball is going outside. too predictable with personnel 1
Bangarang Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You may be right, but it seems like something it couldn't hurt to try. Daboll puzzles me, as I've said elsewhere. At times, he has very well designed plays. At times, he makes clever use of personnel. At other times - Aye Carumba! Overall he reminds me of the coaching version of Whaley's roster. It's not that Whaley didn't bring in talented players. He did. (He whiffed on some, but so does every GM including Beane). It's just that the sum total of the players and roster Whaley assembled never formed a complete team. I think McDermott really needs to mix it in more on the O side of the ball and give his perspective from the D side into the play and gameplan design. In the box or on the sidelines, I don’t expect the results to be any different.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: In the box or on the sidelines, I don’t expect the results to be any different. You've already made that point, and I already acknowledged you may be right, but a move seems like something it couldn't hurt to try. Perhaps there is some new information or a counter argument you would like to advance?
Bangarang Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You've already made that point, and I already acknowledged you may be right, but a move seems like something it couldn't hurt to try. Perhaps there is some new information or a counter argument you would like to advance? A counter to argument to what? I’m not against Daboll calling games from the box. There’s nothing to argue or no new information to discuss. Where an OC calls a game from comes down to personal preference. Edited October 28, 2019 by Bangarang
dorquemada Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I remember hearing that Daboll was going to move down to the field for games this year over the summer. At first I thought this was a good idea IF he and Josh have a good relationship. After watching them through the first half of the season, I don’t believe that’s the case. Id like to see someone who is a bit calmer and more positive as the first interaction Josh has when he comes off the field. Daboll yelling at Josh isn’t good for anyone. Many of us guys 40+ are managing a new generation. It’s not like it was before, even on the football field. Part of this is the amount of exposure and cameras everywhere. I don’t see Daboll’s style working very well with younger players. Daboll in the booth allows him some space from Josh after a mistake. The QB coach on the sideline keeps Josh focused and up. Daboll can rip Josh in the film room the next day away from cameras. I'd put him in a box...outside the stadium with no comms inside 2
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 28, 2019 Posted October 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: This, The Bills need a true #1 WR so teams will respect the pass and stop stacking the box What is a true #1 WR?
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