MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, mattynh said: Over the last 5 years he has averaged like 20 catches, 300 yards and a TD. He cannot make it with the Patriots/Brady. I get it, he is talented (or at one time he was.) but he cannot be trusted to live up to it. I don't think we want this team to take this guy on, I don't see why. Even if he were to work out, the chances of a relapse are sky high. And yet they wanted AB in a trade so obviously the Bills feel their locker room (and I would agree) can take on a player like Gordon. And would only cost a contract. Of course likely won’t happen because we are sitting near the end of waiver priority.
formerlyofCtown Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: Per PFT: The Patriots are expected to waive Gordon off injured reserve once he’s cleared, according to Ian Rapoport of the NFL, allowing Gordon to play with another team this season. If they waive him after Tuesday’s trade deadline, Gordon would be subject to waivers. That would improve New England’s chances of keeping Gordon away from an AFC competitor with the worst teams getting the first shots at waiver claims. Thanks
plenzmd1 Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 quick question, can you trade for a guy who is on someone else's IR? And if so, can you put him on active roster right away and not count as one of your two IR returnees? 19 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And yet they wanted AB in a trade so obviously the Bills feel their locker room (and I would agree) can take on a player like Gordon. And would only cost a contract. Of course likely won’t happen because we are sitting near the end of waiver priority. Outside of his addiction issues and resultant behavior, i have never heard Josh is a bad teammate or a bad dude...and he seems to have been clean now for a good while
Kirby Jackson Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Yeah he’ll go through waivers, the Cheats will make sure of it, meaning he’ll end up in Cincinnati or Miami or the Giants. If he were a free agent I’d certainly try to sign him but it’s a moot (mute) point. If I understand the process correctly they just have to wait until after the trade deadline passes and then he will be subjected to waivers. That’s exactly what the Patriots will do. He will ask in good faith and for his own well-being to be able to pick his situation. I doubt that they allow that. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Yes, I want him. No, he wont make it to us through waivers. But just because a team tries to sign him through waivers, does that mean he MUST sign with them? Cant he decide where he plays through contract negotiation?
Chuck Wagon Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Knowing the Pats, the Bengals will claim him and a mysterious briefcase full of cash will show up at Paul Brown Stadium.
apuszczalowski Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And yet they wanted AB in a trade so obviously the Bills feel their locker room (and I would agree) can take on a player like Gordon. And would only cost a contract. Of course likely won’t happen because we are sitting near the end of waiver priority. So now they wanted AB? Cause when something negative is said about the Bills and AB, it was 'they just checked in on him and weren't serious in making a deal'
Motorin' Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 16 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Very strange. Pats must view Sanu and/or Harry as better options than Gordon at this point. If not that, then there's hints of personal problems again. Either way, that doesn't make me very eager to see him in a Bills uniform. I'm thinking Belichick didn't like that he couldn't, or wouldn't, play through bruises. If there are no personal problems to be found, I think the Bills should at least bring him in for an interview.
jletha Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 16 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Very strange. Pats must view Sanu and/or Harry as better options than Gordon at this point. If not that, then there's hints of personal problems again. Either way, that doesn't make me very eager to see him in a Bills uniform. This is what makes me wary too. The Pats are essentially cutting him and they RARELY let guys walk unless they know theyre cooked. Im suspicuous that something is going on which makes me hesitant to want to sign him.
starrymessenger Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Doubt that he will be available to us but if he is and if he's healthy and clean the Bills would be fools to pass on the opportunity IMO. He's 28 years old and still amongst the most talented of receivers (AJ is 32 and is injured). He's big, he's fast, has a wide catch radius and great hands. Last year he was on track for another 1000 yard season, or close to, before injury. Pats had a second round tender on him coming into this year. Again assuming he's healthy and has been a good citizen I'd be all over it in a heartbeat if we have a shot.
dbfla10 Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 The Bills should look into adding Gordon, and Dion Jordan once hes available. Could be two key contributors for the stretch run, and the Bills wouldn't have to give up any draft picks. Low risk with a high reward.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: quick question, can you trade for a guy who is on someone else's IR? And if so, can you put him on active roster right away and not count as one of your two IR returnees? I believe you can trade for a player on IR and put him on your active roster. But that would be a risk, and obviously take up a valuable roster spot with a guy who can't play
simpleman Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 I doubt the Pats will let him go before deadline, but if they do, it would be downright idiotic to not kick the tires and make a shot on offering a short term prove it deal with seriously generous performance incentives for him. If he can earn it on the field, he will deserve it. If he doesn't perform or has issues that cause him to be sanctioned by the NFL, there would be no major loss to the Bills. High Rewards/Low Risk potential to the team. And no draft picks at risk. We have plenty of cash and cap to offer a very generous performance based incentive rest of season deal.
DCofNC Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Lets get real here, he's not goingnto be released until after the trade deadline so he has to clear waivers, they aren't dumb enough to let him go now so he can sign some where that might hurt them. Nothing to lose by holding him a week. 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yes, I want him. No, he wont make it to us through waivers. But just because a team tries to sign him through waivers, does that mean he MUST sign with them? Cant he decide where he plays through contract negotiation? Waive claim means you takenover his current contract. He's a FA next year, so he can do what he wants then, but for now, whoever claims him, keeps his rights for the year. If there's that much interest in him, maybe the Pats will trade him. We sent Bodine to them, maybe there is an outside chance they would entertain an offer for him. If so I'd make a move for a 4th or so to get him befire he gets claimed, but I have a feeling im not the only guy that thinks that and the other 16 are GMs in the NFC.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: If I understand the process correctly they just have to wait until after the trade deadline passes and then he will be subjected to waivers. That’s exactly what the Patriots will do. He will ask in good faith and for his own well-being to be able to pick his situation. I doubt that they allow that. Agreed. And yet if he and his agent say the same thing to prospective crappy teams that may want to claim him they may not pick him or may allow that. I doubt a team will claim Josh Gordon that he doesn't want to play for. He may be in a unique position.
Doc Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Agreed. And yet if he and his agent say the same thing to prospective crappy teams that may want to claim him they may not pick him or may allow that. I doubt a team will claim Josh Gordon that he doesn't want to play for. He may be in a unique position. Any team claiming him will be investing nothing so threats of holding out won't phase anyone.
Codyny13 Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) I thought a vested veteran with 4 NFL accrued seasons is NOT subject to waivers? Isn’t a waiver of a veteran considered an immediate release?? How many seasons does Josh Gordon have? Edited October 24, 2019 by Codyny13
Kirby Jackson Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Agreed. And yet if he and his agent say the same thing to prospective crappy teams that may want to claim him they may not pick him or may allow that. I doubt a team will claim Josh Gordon that he doesn't want to play for. He may be in a unique position. I hope so and not just for selfish reasons. That guy has been through hell. I hope that every team cares enough about the person to at least consider what’s best for him. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Waive claim means you takenover his current contract. He's a FA next year, so he can do what he wants then, but for now, whoever claims him, keeps his rights for the year. Ah, that's right, thanks. I totally blanked on that part. Dammit!
klos63 Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 17 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Yep. Johnny Footballs old running mate out in Hollywood I believe. heck of a talent. Do we want that type of personality near the team? If he doesn't work out, we can always release him.
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