YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Quote Facing a weaker opponent, Oliver was buzzing all game as both a pass rusher and run defender. He worked through double teams, won his one-on-one matchups and because of it, forced Dolphins rushing attempts to go awry.Everyone will remember Oliver’s first career sack, but he did much more than that on Sunday. Oliver continues to affect passing plays even without the statistics to back it up. He’s getting quarterbacks to move off their spots, forcing inaccurate passes downfield. In just six games, Oliver has provided an upgrade to the three-technique position from 2018 and has the potential for more. Between Oliver and Jordan Phillips, the duo has turned the role into a strength for the Bills this season. Edited October 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio 7
Warcodered Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Weird I heard Allen was only good for half the game.? 3 2
billsfan1959 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Some people are not going to be very happy about this.... 1
HappyDays Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Yep I would encourage everyone to rewatch the game. Allen was pretty good in the 1st half and great in the 2nd half. This was his best game yet IMO. 9
K-9 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: Yep I would encourage everyone to rewatch the game. Allen was pretty good in the 1st half and great in the 2nd half. This was his best game yet IMO. Yep. Two decent games in a row by Josh. Building the foundation. 1
BADOLBILZ Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Allen is doing fine for a young QB. If they had some playmaking talent around him on offense he wouldn't have to be defended. Plays like that throw on the run to McKenzie in the end zone.............that is a hopeless throw to a smurf-gadget WR but that could be a TD with a good 6'2" WR with ball skills. 6
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: Allen is doing fine for a young QB. If they had some playmaking talent around him on offense he wouldn't have to be defended. Plays like that throw on the run to McKenzie in the end zone.............that is a hopeless throw to a smurf-gadget WR but that could be a TD with a good 6'2" WR with ball skills. John Brown and Cole Beasley called. They said to say "Boo!" I do take your point on the need for another WR 3
Kelly the Dog Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: Allen is doing fine for a young QB. If they had some playmaking talent around him on offense he wouldn't have to be defended. Plays like that throw on the run to McKenzie in the end zone.............that is a hopeless throw to a smurf-gadget WR but that could be a TD with a good 6'2" WR with ball skills. You mean like 82? 6
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 I thought Josh played a good game after my review of the film last night as well..... On gameday ppl were slitting their wrists with some of the most insane comments. 1
K-9 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I thought Josh played a good game after my review of the film last night as well..... On gameday ppl were slitting their wrists with some of the most insane comments. I admire your fortitude for being able to stomach this place during a game. It’s full tilt bozo time around here on game days. 4
BADOLBILZ Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: You mean like 82? No.........Duke would have still been at the 10 yard line when that ball was thrown. He's routinely the slowest non-lineman on the field on any given play he's in there. Nice chain mover and RZ option but not a solution to the lack of big plays in the passing game. 1 1
GG Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Allen is doing fine for a young QB. If they had some playmaking talent around him on offense he wouldn't have to be defended. Plays like that throw on the run to McKenzie in the end zone.............that is a hopeless throw to a smurf-gadget WR but that could be a TD with a good 6'2" WR with ball skills. Did you see the All-22 of that play? Allen stared him down for an extra second. If he threw the ball a split second earlier, McKenzie walks in the end-zone. It's here. Edited October 22, 2019 by GG 2 1
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Allen is doing fine for a young QB. If they had some playmaking talent around him on offense he wouldn't have to be defended. Plays like that throw on the run to McKenzie in the end zone.............that is a hopeless throw to a smurf-gadget WR but that could be a TD with a good 6'2" WR with ball skills. I agree with this...there were actually 2 throws of this kind to McKenzie in the game Let McKenzie run gadget plays like jet sweeps and back up as a returner.....get someone on the edge that will go up and get a friggen ball.
BADOLBILZ Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: John Brown and Cole Beasley called. They said to say "Boo!" I do take your point on the need for another WR I have no idea what you mean by that. But sitting in the stands you can hear that people are coming to grips with what the Bills actually got in Beasley..........they thought this guy was going to be like Edelman or some kind of YAC monster. He is a small-play player. That ball he couldn't hold onto along the sideline is a prime example of a throw that should be made to a receiver with a normal catch radius.........and the Bills are short on those. The receiving corps is all one notch higher up the chain than they should be. 2
CommonCents Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Who wouldn’t give a 1st for Golladay? He would solve the problem. 1
ngbills Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Allen is doing fine for a young QB. If they had some playmaking talent around him on offense he wouldn't have to be defended. Plays like that throw on the run to McKenzie in the end zone.............that is a hopeless throw to a smurf-gadget WR but that could be a TD with a good 6'2" WR with ball skills. That play is not the best example. Watch it on the all 22 and you see that Allen is both late throwing the ball and has awful footwork. He has gotten into a really bad habit this year not setting to make his throws. Its the danger of having a strong arm, always think you can just sling it. I do agree another playmaker on offense would make a big impact. I think a playmaker WR or possibly better a RB that is a threat out of the backfield. We have seen Yeldon catch some passes, imagine if that was legit RB back there doing that. Edited October 22, 2019 by ngbills
BADOLBILZ Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, GG said: Did you see the All-22 of that play? Allen stared him down for an extra second. If he threw the ball a split second earlier, McKenzie walks in the end-zone. It's here. I saw the All-22 of that play as it was happening..........if Allen were Chad Pennington throwing with perfect anticipation and placement within 15 yards of the LOS then this WR corps would be a great fit. He's not. He didn't see John Brown open on a 3rd down pass that fell incomplete to Knox in the first half as well. That's what you get with him. He also buys time with his feet and creates opportunities for passing plays that a game manager could not.
Doc Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, GG said: Did you see the All-22 of that play? Allen stared him down for an extra second. If he threw the ball a split second earlier, McKenzie walks in the end-zone. It's here. Josh is staring him down for an extra second because McK isn't looking back for the ball. 1
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