dubs Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Gary Busey said: Only an absolute moron would say that when your mom told you daily that she was going to kill you, did you call 911 each day because you took her words literally? its clear trump was talking about this ridiculous topic as phony. The notion that somehow he’s violating a word (not a clause mind you, a singular word) in the constitution or doing anything remotely untoward is patently ridiculous. 1 1
Tiberius Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, dubs said: when your mom told you daily that she was going to kill you, did you call 911 each day because you took her words literally? its clear trump was talking about this ridiculous topic as phony. The notion that somehow he’s violating a word (not a clause mind you, a singular word) in the constitution or doing anything remotely untoward is patently ridiculous. Not ridiculous at all, he's taking money from foreign governments
SoCal Deek Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Not ridiculous at all, he's taking money from foreign governments Actually....he’s EARNING money from foreign governments. There’s a difference!
Chef Jim Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Actually....he’s EARNING money from foreign governments. There’s a difference! And God forbid they ever call taxes "taking money". Edited October 22, 2019 by Chef Jim
SoCal Deek Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: And God forbid they ever call taxes as "taking money". Bingo! I always cringe at the phrase “letting you keep more of your own money”. Sheeesh
billsfan89 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's very, very simple. The United States Intelligence Community had him under the most invasive surveillance for over a full calendar year -- and then had another year and a half of unlimited subpoena and investigatory power. During that time the mission at hand wasn't just to find out about Trump/Russia and the '16 election, but to find any crime or wrong doing they could use to unseat him. After all that investigation -- they found: * That he slept / paid for a porn star and playmate before he was in office * That he possibly obstructed justice of a crime that did not exist/happen That's it. Nothing else was found despite the digging and illegal surveillance and investigation. Had Trump not paid a parking ticket, you would have seen front page story after front page story -- let alone had he done anything corrupt they could pin him with. That's the true legacy of Mueller's probe which no one in the media will touch because it destroys the narrative they've programmed into your head for three years -- not only that he committed treason (didn't happen), but that he's the most corrupt person ever to be in office. The reality is, he's cleaner than ANYONE who was looking into him. He's cleaner than Obama (major corruption under his leadership), cleaner than Schiff, Pelosi, Schumer, Ryan, and most of the House, cleaner than Clinton... They never expected that he would end up being clean. That's why they went all in on fraudulent FISAs and improper/illegal CI investigations into a sitting president. They figured he HAD to be at least as dirty as they, the DC establishment creatures, are. Turns out he's not. That's not me making assumptions. That's not me stating my opinion. That's what multiple investigations produced. I agree that the Russia Gate thing was mostly non-sense. I personally believed that the notion that Trump was some Manchurian candidate was silly and although I do believe that his campaign did exchange info and coordinate with Russia in an indirect capacity but that was all done through back channels and through proxies things that wouldn't lead a paper trail and likely there was going to be a fall guy anyway. Overall I thought that at worst there was going to be an Oliver North type to take the fall. That's not to say that Trump's campaign is possibly the first to ever have that type of information exchange with another country but that's another story. But Trump's corruption isn't tied solely to Russia or Ukraine. It is very obvious to me that Trump is using his office to help his business interests which is a huge form of corruption. Trump vetoed a fairly bi-partisan piece of legislation aimed at stopping a genocide in Yemen and stop arming an Islamic Extremist regime to a government that just so happens to do a lot of business with Trump and his family. It doesn't stop there either. There are numerous examples of Trump giving favors to those who do business with him and his businesses. Even the Muller investigation was a very limited scope investigation where they were just looking into Russian collusion. They didn't look into Trump's business dealing outside of Russia. So to say you think Trump is clean because the Muller report only found somewhat minor things is missing the scope of the investigation and ignoring very real conflicts of interest and overall awful business dealings. And once again I don't care about the politics, Dems do it too does not justify someone else's corruption. 1
SoCal Deek Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Looking out for your own interests is not the definition of corruption. Everyone looks out for their own interests...everyone!
Wacka Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Hey Gary, Tibs and other members of the re-tard rodeo, no manner how many times you say it was good, Scot Norwood was wide right in SB XV 1
row_33 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 41 minutes ago, Wacka said: Hey Gary, Tibs and other members of the re-tard rodeo, no manner how many times you say it was good, Scot Norwood was wide right in SB XV During one NFL post-game film session the kicker missed and the coach cut him on the spot he begged for another chance and the coach said “okay, rewind the tape and see if he makes it this time”
3rdnlng Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 42 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I agree that the Russia Gate thing was mostly non-sense. I personally believed that the notion that Trump was some Manchurian candidate was silly and although I do believe that his campaign did exchange info and coordinate with Russia in an indirect capacity but that was all done through back channels and through proxies things that wouldn't lead a paper trail and likely there was going to be a fall guy anyway. Overall I thought that at worst there was going to be an Oliver North type to take the fall. That's not to say that Trump's campaign is possibly the first to ever have that type of information exchange with another country but that's another story. But Trump's corruption isn't tied solely to Russia or Ukraine. It is very obvious to me that Trump is using his office to help his business interests which is a huge form of corruption. Trump vetoed a fairly bi-partisan piece of legislation aimed at stopping a genocide in Yemen and stop arming an Islamic Extremist regime to a government that just so happens to do a lot of business with Trump and his family. It doesn't stop there either. There are numerous examples of Trump giving favors to those who do business with him and his businesses. Even the Muller investigation was a very limited scope investigation where they were just looking into Russian collusion. They didn't look into Trump's business dealing outside of Russia. So to say you think Trump is clean because the Muller report only found somewhat minor things is missing the scope of the investigation and ignoring very real conflicts of interest and overall awful business dealings. And once again I don't care about the politics, Dems do it too does not justify someone else's corruption. Does this belief come from a dream? Chrystal Ball? I mean Mueller and his team of democrat lawyers spent $40 million trying to find something on him and they couldn't do it even when they were hoping like hell to find something. But you believe it. Gotcha.
billsfan89 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Does this belief come from a dream? Chrystal Ball? I mean Mueller and his team of democrat lawyers spent $40 million trying to find something on him and they couldn't do it even when they were hoping like hell to find something. But you believe it. Gotcha. Democrat lawyers? Setting aside that Muller is a Republican. I will just say that this is a belief from how embedded Trump's business ties are with Russia and how well connected he is to Russian Oligarchs and a lot of coincidences that happened timing wise. I acknowledged that this is what I believe and implied that it is speculation. To me it is irrelevant since I don't think he is the only campaign to have back channel communications with foreign entities. The real proof of Trump's corruption stems from his businesses and how many entities funnel money to him through them.
row_33 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Democrat lawyers? Setting aside that Muller is a Republican. I will just say that this is a belief from how embedded Trump's business ties are with Russia and how well connected he is to Russian Oligarchs and a lot of coincidences that happened timing wise. I acknowledged that this is what I believe and implied that it is speculation. To me it is irrelevant since I don't think he is the only campaign to have back channel communications with foreign entities. The real proof of Trump's corruption stems from his businesses and how many entities funnel money to him through them. trump is an unwilling dupe for the Commies...
3rdnlng Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, row_33 said: trump is an unwilling dupe for the Commies... Trump is just the leader of the Russian Squad consisting of him, Major Gabbard and Comrade Stein. 2
row_33 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Trump is just the leader of the Russian Squad consisting of him, Major Gabbard and Comrade Stein. good thing Dame Hillary is there to point the finger at Trump and other operatives for Russia 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: But Trump's corruption isn't tied solely to Russia or Ukraine. It is very obvious to me that Trump is using his office to help his business interests which is a huge form of corruption. And if it was corruption, they would have signed him on it through mueller or the house/senate probes. As I stated, the fishing expedition wasn’t solely restrained to Trump/Russia, that was the excuse. Their purview allowed them to look at his entire life during the presidency and before it — answer they found no corruption. I understand you believe he’s corrupt — that’s been hammered into everyone’s brain for 4 years straight. But there is no evidence to support that claim. Which is what the probes actually proved. 34 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Democrat lawyers? Setting aside that Muller is a Republican. I will just say that this is a belief from how embedded Trump's business ties are with Russia and how well connected he is to Russian Oligarchs and a lot of coincidences that happened timing wise. I acknowledged that this is what I believe and implied that it is speculation. To me it is irrelevant since I don't think he is the only campaign to have back channel communications with foreign entities. The real proof of Trump's corruption stems from his businesses and how many entities funnel money to him through them. Mueller proved he had no backdoor connections or contacts to Russians though. Nor did anyone on his team. That’s the findings of not just mueller but the house and senate too.
Bob&Doug Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, row_33 said: Clinton's trump are unwilling dupes for the Commies... FIFY Edited October 22, 2019 by Bob&Doug 1
DC Tom Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, Bob&Doug said: FIFY Really, how does the left forgive this and criticize Trump? How on earth do people hold to that gargantuan cognitive dissonance?
Chef Jim Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Trump is just the leader of the Russian Squad consisting of him, Major Gabbard and Comrade Stein. Now if we can only get Gabbard to say "moose and squirrel" we'll have her sussed out.
Warren Zevon Posted October 22, 2019 Author Posted October 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Really, how does the left forgive this and criticize Trump? How on earth do people hold to that gargantuan cognitive dissonance? #LockHerUp You got the AG in Trump's pocket - what's stopping them beside the facts?
Deranged Rhino Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Really, how does the left forgive this and criticize Trump? How on earth do people hold to that gargantuan cognitive dissonance? TDS has broken people's brains. That's how. And it's hard to blame them. As you've noted more than once, since the media began this by claiming Trump was a literal Nazi, anything is justified when you're fighting Nazis. Especially hypocrisy.
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