Freddie's Dead Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) He Light(s) My Fire. Jose just had a good interview on OBD. "All I wanted was a chance". I like this guy. Edited October 16, 2019 by Freddie's Dead
billsfan89 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 I think the narrative of McBeane not doing well with free agent signings is going to fade away. Brown and Beasley have delivered the upgrade at WR, Mitch is playing as well as we thought, and some unheralded signings like Feliciano are balling out too. Even some of the lesser successful signings are still producing to a decent level like Ty. Overall I think the fact that McBeane finally had a lot of cap space to work with proved that this regime can make quality pro-personnel decisions. Granted not everything has worked out like Kroft but the quality moves have far outweighed the busts.
ColoradoBills Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 He definitely deserves negotiations for an extension in the off season. As for the others on the OL can we please wait to see how they will all be playing in the playoffs before decisions are made. insert winky thing here.
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 6:22 PM, YoloinOhio said: Thief! from my Fe-Li-Ci-Ano during preseason! oh...I can never stay mad at you, YOLO! 1
Nelius Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Mean, mean man. Bet he shines even more against better competition. Edited October 17, 2019 by Nelius
Saxum Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, High Football IQ said: With both Spain and Felciano proving to be solid additions, this team is going to have a big decision to make in regards to Cody Ford who has certainly been a bust thus far and doesn't resemble an NFL tackle or even an average NFL guard at this point. I guess we would say same thing about you. Time to cut you!
John from Riverside Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Jon has a 2 year deal I think.....I think he is our RG I think Spain is going to be cut loose as he is only on a 1 year deal....and Ford is going to go to LG Why would we do that? Because our OT situations are not settled........and money is going to need to go there
NickelCity Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 5:11 PM, H2o said: Said it last week that I think our best OL right now would be Dawkins-Feliciano-Morse-Ford-Bates. Mongo has been a monster. You think that'd be better right now than dawkins-spain-morse-feliciano-bates?
Saxum Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 6:41 PM, Limeaid said: Jon Feliciano signed a 2 year, $7,250,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $1,500,000 signing bonus, $3,900,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $3,625,000. 20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Jon has a 2 year deal I think.....I think he is our RG I think Spain is going to be cut loose as he is only on a 1 year deal....and Ford is going to go to LG Why would we do that? Because our OT situations are not settled........and money is going to need to go there Information on his contract was posted earlier.
Aussie Joe Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Jon has a 2 year deal I think.....I think he is our RG I think Spain is going to be cut loose as he is only on a 1 year deal....and Ford is going to go to LG Why would we do that? Because our OT situations are not settled........and money is going to need to go there I could see them keeping Spain a bit longer.. They have money to spend and he is at worst quality depth if not competing to start.. Totally speculating here but could be resign for 3 years say $12 Mil with $6Mil guaranteed? His market was not strong last year... Long would be ( long) gone in this scenario though..
Doc Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 9 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Jon has a 2 year deal I think.....I think he is our RG I think Spain is going to be cut loose as he is only on a 1 year deal....and Ford is going to go to LG Why would we do that? Because our OT situations are not settled........and money is going to need to go there It's way too early to give up on Ford at RT. And Bates is also a candidate there. They need to see if he (Bates) can be the answer if Ford doesn't appear to be. 8 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: I could see them keeping Spain a bit longer.. They have money to spend and he is at worst quality depth if not competing to start.. Totally speculating here but could be resign for 3 years say $12 Mil with $6Mil guaranteed? His market was not strong last year... Long would be ( long) gone in this scenario though.. No need to dump Long. He's under contract for 2 more years. Especially if they let Spain walk.
John from Riverside Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: It's way too early to give up on Ford at RT. And Bates is also a candidate there. They need to see if he (Bates) can be the answer if Ford doesn't appear to be. No need to dump Long. He's under contract for 2 more years. Especially if they let Spain walk. I would like for Ford to work out at RT as well.....but I have to be honest in my evaluation.....worse then Mills right now. Bates actually looked BETTER and he is a young OL as well That in no way means that I am down on Ford.....just play him at his position of strength....Morse is a concussion waiting to happen so Jon has to be ready to moveover....Ford is needed it was still a good pick
Aussie Joe Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: No need to dump Long. He's under contract for 2 more years. Especially if they let Spain walk. My point is if they can keep Spain , and they move Ford to G as was suggested in the post I responded to, they could cut Long who has limited guaranteed money after this year.. They obviously prefer Spain as he is starting now.. Of course his cost next year and beyond remains to be seen.. Agree if they lose Spain then keep Long...
billsfan89 Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: I could see them keeping Spain a bit longer.. They have money to spend and he is at worst quality depth if not competing to start.. Totally speculating here but could be resign for 3 years say $12 Mil with $6Mil guaranteed? His market was not strong last year... Long would be ( long) gone in this scenario though.. I can't see Spain coming back unless it is on a modest one year deal. Which might be possible since his market this past off-season wasn't too hot and his play has been fairly average or less thus far. I think long term they are going to kick Ford in at LG next season if he continues to struggle at RG. I think Spain would be excellent as a backup but I would rather throw that money elsewhere if he commands anything more than a 3ish million dollar one year deal. Bates and Long are already in place as depth along the interior O-line and I think they are going to draft another O-line player high to push Ty for the RT spot which would add another quality bench player.
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I would like for Ford to work out at RT as well.....but I have to be honest in my evaluation.....worse then Mills right now. Bates actually looked BETTER and he is a young OL as well That in no way means that I am down on Ford.....just play him at his position of strength....Morse is a concussion waiting to happen so Jon has to be ready to moveover....Ford is needed it was still a good pick Small sample size for Bates though. I need to see him over 4 complete games or so to make a true honest assesment.
Aussie Joe Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, billsfan89 said: I can't see Spain coming back unless it is on a modest one year deal. Which might be possible since his market this past off-season wasn't too hot and his play has been fairly average or less thus far. I think long term they are going to kick Ford in at LG next season if he continues to struggle at RG. I think Spain would be excellent as a backup but I would rather throw that money elsewhere if he commands anything more than a 3ish million dollar one year deal. Bates and Long are already in place as depth along the interior O-line and I think they are going to draft another O-line player high to push Ty for the RT spot which would add another quality bench player. But they are paying Long more now to be a backup for another two years.... If they get Spain for the same money as Long, they will keep Spain.... ( $4Mil per year..) Edited October 18, 2019 by Aussie Joe
billsfan89 Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: But they are paying Long more now to be a backup for another two years.... If they get Spain for the same money as Long, they will keep Spain.... ( $4Mil per year..) Long is much more versatile than Spain. Although I get the value proposition that Spain might be better. But in the end I guess you can't have enough Oline depth so I wouldn't hate the move provided that Spain would be Ok competing for a spot.
Aussie Joe Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, billsfan89 said: Long is much more versatile than Spain. Although I get the value proposition that Spain might be better. But in the end I guess you can't have enough Oline depth so I wouldn't hate the move provided that Spain would be Ok competing for a spot. Yes.. Long is more versatile as Spain seems strictly a G.. But as I mentioned.. it seems they prefer Spain to start.. Long was signed early last offseason before free agency started.. the way his contract is structured tells me his future might be a little questionable... However, he hasn’t done anything wrong in his limited playing time this year to date.. Beane has covered all bases and he can ultimately decide to keep Long as depth if Spain leaves..
wppete Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 John Feliciano is the best O-Lineman on this teM hands down. Great signing!
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