JustWinPlease Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 Cody Ford was a waste of a pick, should've taken a WR...lock up Spain and Feliciano, trade Ford and draft a real RT. Ford can't play RT and there's no need for him at OG either...I'd take AJ Brown, JJ Whiteside or DK Metcalf over him in a heartbeat. 1 1
Saint Doug Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Especially when you have almost $90 million in cap space and no need to pay a QB for a few years still. I think what we’ll see is a bunch of heavily front loaded extensions signed, even if they aren’t hitting free agency. Use up most of next year’s cap to allow wiggle room for when we need to sign Allen, which will likely happen in 2 years.
Inigo Montoya Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Spain has had some issues this year. I think the Bills need to rotate Ford with Spain at RG and see if Ford can play well on the left side and just let Feliciano and Nsehke hold down the right side of the line. I think that's our best line combination. 40 minutes ago, JustWinPlease said: Cody Ford was a waste of a pick, should've taken a WR...lock up Spain and Feliciano, trade Ford and draft a real RT. Ford can't play RT and there's no need for him at OG either...I'd take AJ Brown, JJ Whiteside or DK Metcalf over him in a heartbeat. I'd respectfully disagree JWP. Ford may not develop into a starting NFL tackle, but he seems to have the chops to be a fantastic NFL guard for the next twelve years. I'm sure Beane had high hopes about our O-Line free agent pick ups but he had no way to know how they were going to work out. For a team that had no O-Line at all last year, I think Ford was a second round pick well spent. Just look to the Titan's game to see the value of depth on the O-Line. We don't win that game without the second and even third string O-Linemen (Feliciano, Long, Bates) coming into the game and playing solid football. The entire right side of the line came off the bench and there was no drop off in play. Edited October 15, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 8 1 1
Doc Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He does play RG ? Ugh. Meant LG.
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2019 Author Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Ugh. Meant LG. Oh - yes I think JF can. Don’t think Ford has Edited October 15, 2019 by YoloinOhio
Doc Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh - yes I think JF can. Don’t think Ford has If JF can play LG as well, move him there, move Ford to RG, start Bates at RT and that could be a really good OL. 1
JinxedBill Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Nice thing is we cleared the cap so we can make some smart extensions coming up like this dude next year. 1
H2o Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Said it last week that I think our best OL right now would be Dawkins-Feliciano-Morse-Ford-Bates. Mongo has been a monster.
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2019 Author Posted October 16, 2019 I’ve seen two people mention Bates at RT. I didn’t see any assessment of him from the Titans game - i assume it was positive?
Stank_Nasty Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’ve seen two people mention Bates at RT. I didn’t see any assessment of him from the Titans game - i assume it was positive? Well we didn’t notice him in there... I think that’s at least a solid sign. Haha. 2
Logic Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 It's weird to me how many people think Spain is playing poorly this year. He's not. He has struggled AT TIMES, as all offensive linemen do, but his positive contributions far outweigh his negative moments. Cover 1 just posted a bunch of clips of him on Twitter. He's an absolute load in the run game, he handles twists and stunts very well, he's a leader in the locker room, and he brings size and attitude that the coaches like. Sometimes I feel like people want a Pro Bowler at every position. Spain is more than adequate at LG. I also don't think the coaching staff has given up on Cody Ford playing right tackle. They must feel that he is progressing at that position. Either that or they don't feel that Nsekhe can hold up there full time, health-wise. In any event. I feel that the Bills have 3/5 of the line solved long term: Dawkins (another one that people are more down on than me this season. He is having a career year), Morse, and Feliciano. Now they just need to decide whether Spain factors into the long term equation. If he doesn't, I'm fine with trying out Spencer Long or Cody Ford at LG. A tackle needs to be drafted or signed this offseason, it appears. 2
Food_Pyramid_Wrong Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1HpBqQbn-E 1
WideNine Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I actually think he played even better at C than at G. I am not certain he isn't the best performing C on our roster right now. He was not too shabby. Saw him get bull rushed once, where he let the DT get into his pads. It is good to have that depth.
Buffalo Junction Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Finding defenders to hit and putting them on the ground. Love that attitude, and this team was missing that last year. 2
Blank Stare Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Infuriating to me how inadequate we’ve been at RT for years. All indications are that Ford is a guard. I like Nsekhe at tackle but he’s old and been banged up since training camp and I don’t know if he’ll ever be healed enough this season to take every snap at RT. Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he has a procedure at the end of the season. Something not right there.
Inigo Montoya Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Logic said: It's weird to me how many people think Spain is playing poorly this year. He's not. He has struggled AT TIMES, as all offensive linemen do, but his positive contributions far outweigh his negative moments. Cover 1 just posted a bunch of clips of him on Twitter. He's an absolute load in the run game, he handles twists and stunts very well, he's a leader in the locker room, and he brings size and attitude that the coaches like. Sometimes I feel like people want a Pro Bowler at every position. Spain is more than adequate at LG. I also don't think the coaching staff has given up on Cody Ford playing right tackle. They must feel that he is progressing at that position. Either that or they don't feel that Nsekhe can hold up there full time, health-wise. In any event. I feel that the Bills have 3/5 of the line solved long term: Dawkins (another one that people are more down on than me this season. He is having a career year), Morse, and Feliciano. Now they just need to decide whether Spain factors into the long term equation. If he doesn't, I'm fine with trying out Spencer Long or Cody Ford at LG. A tackle needs to be drafted or signed this offseason, it appears. Fair points. Spain is on a one year prove it deal and is going to cost some coin to resign at the end of the year. If Ford can play well at LG, we can slot him in there and he will be cost effective playing on his rookie contract, and the O-Line will still have great depth with Nsekhe, Long, Bates, and Feliciano vying for playing time at the two positions on the right side of the line. Just a thought. One thing is certain, in one year we have gone from having arguably the worst O-Line in the NFL, to an embarrassment of riches on our O-Line. Successful football starts in the trenches. Kudos to Beane, McDermott, and Bobby Johnson for putting us in this position. Edited October 16, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 2
BruceVilanch Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, JustWinPlease said: Cody Ford was a waste of a pick, should've taken a WR...lock up Spain and Feliciano, trade Ford and draft a real RT. Ford can't play RT and there's no need for him at OG either...I'd take AJ Brown, JJ Whiteside or DK Metcalf over him in a heartbeat. Did you know that the more rookies play the better they get? I bet you wanted to trade Edmunds last year too.
Nuncha Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Dude is solid and a really good backup center. Was very happy he didn't miss time with the neck injury he had. Another good pickup for the Bills. Edited October 16, 2019 by Azucho98
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