Doc Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Schopp still claims he would rather be Cleveland than us. Schopp is Cleveland. 2 1
BringBackFergy Posted January 3, 2020 Author Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Waiting for someone to trot out that 'talent trumps culture' line I think I challenged that back in March. Couldn’t re-open the original thread for some reason but it’s on Page One. Of course, now I’m watching the Sabres game and thinking McDermott needs to get his ass down to Key Bank Center.
GoBills808 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I think I challenged that back in March. Couldn’t re-open the original thread for some reason but it’s on Page One. Of course, now I’m watching the Sabres game and thinking McDermott needs to get his ass down to Key Bank Center. I'm sorry, I don't follow baseball 1
BringBackFergy Posted January 3, 2020 Author Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: I'm sorry, I don't follow baseball You need to make your predictions when the cantaloupe start producing flowers (May). Get with the program Island Boy!! 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: I said this in another thread - I just do not understand why Buffalo got to be the butt of every joke, but Cleveland that has now matched the streak and compiled a significantly worse record during that time - skated by. I always hate to wish ill will on another fan base, but I hope for our sake this goes at least one more year - so Cleveland can own it. IIRC They own a 21 year maybe 23? Streak w/o a playoff win. more than Buffalo Since returning 21 years ago, they have only made the playoffs once, while the Baltimore Ravens are considered to be a separate team that began play in 1996. The Ravens, as a result of the Cleveland Browns relocation controversy, absorbed the Browns' personnel upon their suspension, but not their history.
BillsFan4 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001093974/article/browns-to-hire-hc-first-then-gm-all-with-nfl-exp Browns to hire head coach first, then GM, all with NFL experience.
Malazan Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: I said this in another thread - I just do not understand why Buffalo got to be the butt of every joke, but Cleveland that has now matched the streak and compiled a significantly worse record during that time - skated by. I always hate to wish ill will on another fan base, but I hope for our sake this goes at least one more year - so Cleveland can own it. 1 more then they and Tampa need to make the playoff and let the Jets take over the longest playoffless streak
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 This is 2 to 3 years old matter2003 2,662 Posted November 30, 2017 Top 10 Longest Playoff Win Droughts(in years): Bengals: 27 years(1990): Last Win: Houston Oilers(41-14 January 6th,1991), Starting QB: Boomer Esiason, Playoff Record since: 0-7(2015) Lions: 26 years(1991): Last Win: Dallas Cowboys(38-6, January 5th, 1992), Starting QB: Erik Kramer, Playoff Record since: 0-8(2016) ***Honorable Mention of Futility: That was Detroit's ONLY playoff win since 1957(but hey, at least they won the championship that year), and from 1957 to 1991 they only made the playoffs 3 seasons(1970, 1982 and 1983 meaning they had 3 more lengthy streaks in there)...Lions Playoff Record since 1957: 1-12. That has to be a record of futility that never gets broken...1 playoff win in 60 years....and we thought WE have it bad Browns: 23 years(1994): Last Win: New England Patriots(20-13, January 1st, 1995), Starting QB: Vinny Testeverde, Playoff Record since: 0-2(2002) 1
ganesh Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: But, but, but....it’s not the talent, it’s the coach and GM. With OBJ, Landry and Mayfield, a coach can teach them how to be humble and buy into the process. Not This was 100% on the HC for both off the field and ON the field. They failed to field a winning team on the FIELD and bred a bad culture off the field (Remember the encouragement to brawl with the T-Shirt)....The HC lost the football team and had to go 1
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 In order to self-destruct, don't you have to first reach a plateau from which a fall is tragic? 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, row_33 said: In order to self-destruct, don't you have to first reach a plateau from which a fall is tragic? Agreed, but with the cast of ‘drama queens’ there, coupled with unfounded delusions of grandeur and success, the fall off the first rung of the ladder is just that much more inflated.
Royale with Cheese Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/browns-odell-beckham-trade-official-reaction https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-browns-fan-has-police-called-on-him-for-celebrating-odell-beckham-trade/ https://abc13.com/society/police-called-on-browns-fan-wildly-celebrating-trade-in-yard/5193223/ https://fox8.com/2019/03/13/browns-fan-sets-off-fireworks-to-celebrate-odell-beckham-jr-trade/ Edited January 3, 2020 by Royale with Cheese
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 From the Browns’ tweet: WE GOT HIM! * waiting for: WHO WANTS HIM? (Make an offer...please!)
Chaos Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Doc said: And it was just a few months ago where more than a few were pining for the off-season moves of the Browns. To be fair, I am not aware of anyone anywhere pining for Kitchens as HC. (Other than Baker Mayfield)
BringBackFergy Posted January 3, 2020 Author Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/browns-odell-beckham-trade-official-reaction https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-browns-fan-has-police-called-on-him-for-celebrating-odell-beckham-trade/ https://abc13.com/society/police-called-on-browns-fan-wildly-celebrating-trade-in-yard/5193223/ https://fox8.com/2019/03/13/browns-fan-sets-off-fireworks-to-celebrate-odell-beckham-jr-trade/ “And just like that, the Browns became the AFC’s most complete team” LOL, LOL 3
Boca BIlls Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 I called for destruction way before this thread came out. And I remember you said October... 1
Sig1Hunter Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/browns-odell-beckham-trade-official-reaction https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-browns-fan-has-police-called-on-him-for-celebrating-odell-beckham-trade/ https://abc13.com/society/police-called-on-browns-fan-wildly-celebrating-trade-in-yard/5193223/ https://fox8.com/2019/03/13/browns-fan-sets-off-fireworks-to-celebrate-odell-beckham-jr-trade/ This situation should be the ultimate example of why no one should listen to the moronic media when it comes to off season prognostications. Would be nice if those media morons would publicly eat their words when they were so off base and force fed us all that narrative. They are idiots who know nothing and are only interested in selling the “team du jour”. 3
BarleyNY Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: This situation should be the ultimate example of why no one should listen to the moronic media when it comes to off season prognostications. Would be nice if those media morons would publicly eat their words when they were so off base and force fed us all that narrative. They are idiots who know nothing and are only interested in selling the “team du jour”. The sports media is about clicks, eyes and ears. They’ll always run with hype on any team making splash moves - especially in the off season when they need all the material they can get. 1
Sig1Hunter Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: The sports media is about clicks, eyes and ears. They’ll always run with hype on any team making splash moves - especially in the off season when they need all the material they can get. No doubt. I understand that. I wish the educated nfl fan consumer would see through the BS so it would push that kind of crap out of the media market. When the consumer sees it as the trash that it is, the demand for the trash drops, and the demand for legit NFL analysis and discussion increases. It’s too much to ask, but I’ll still live in my dream world! 1
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: No doubt. I understand that. I wish the educated nfl fan consumer would see through the BS so it would push that kind of crap out of the media market. When the consumer sees it as the trash that it is, the demand for the trash drops, and the demand for legit NFL analysis and discussion increases. It’s too much to ask, but I’ll still live in my dream world! oh yes the "educated fan" LOL someday we will have our Utopia, reading Plato's Symposium and then watching the game Seriously LOL
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