PUNT750 Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 Over 11 seasons Matt Stafford has passed for over 40,000+ yards with a completion percentage at 62.4%. He's led the Lions to 4 winning seasons and 3 play-off appearances. If Josh Allen has similar stats in his career as a Buffalo Bill what would your expectations be for the team??
Boatdrinks Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 I’d like more than just 3 playoff appearances. Don’t care nearly as much about passing numbers 9 1 1
elijah Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 Great question that I find myself asking a lot. The numbers are great but I would personally like some more wins and team success. 3
Laughing Coffin Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 with staffords W-L record? No Give Allen Stafford's complete talent and skillset throwing the football on this team with this defense? Absolutely 2
Bing Bong Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Stafford with this defense?? Sign me up babee Little known fact. With Stafford's numbers and the shut down defense we look like we have. Stafford's actually contribution WILL show up in the WL column. Lions are a tire fire Edited October 15, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 3
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 Easiest answer to this question is has Stafford won a Super Bowl? Because the answer to that question is the same. 1
Augie Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 A career is more than yards and completion %. I want all that.....AND WINNING! Regular season, post season, Super Bowl rings, the whole deal!
MJS Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 Stafford and Dalton are in the same category for me. Stats monsters who aren't winners. I'd rather have a winner. Allen might have a lot of flaws, but he's a winner. When the chips are down he gets the job done. 3
LSHMEAB Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 Satisfied; yeah. No doubt. The guy has been a very, very good QB on bad to average football teams with poor coaching. I'd be more than satisfied. 1 2
NewEra Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) My feeling abound him will never ever revolve around stats Edited October 15, 2019 by NewEra
LSHMEAB Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 This type of question always brings me back to the time Ladanian Tomlinson was drafted. Bill Polian compared him to Thurman Thomas and Chargers fans were IRATE opining that a Thurman Thomas like (HOF!) career wasn't good enough and that he was much better than TT. This is perhaps the worst example ever, because LT did end up having a better career than Thurman, but it's one that stands out for whatever reason. With regards to a top 10 QB, people would probably only be satisfied with like 7 or 8 guys. The odds of a drafted QB becoming John Elway/Brett Favre/Tom Brady, etc. are HIGHLY unlikely. So the answer to this question is very simple for me from a practical standpoint. It's yes. 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 No. hoping for Roethlisberger/Elway.
MJS Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Satisfied; yeah. No doubt. The guy has been a very, very good QB on bad to average football teams with poor coaching. I'd be more than satisfied. He's been above average. Only 1 pro bowl. He's a solid QB, but I wouldn't go as far to say he's been "very, very good".
Thurman#1 Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: I’d like more than just 3 playoff appearances. Don’t care nearly as much about passing numbers Me too, but that isn't Matt Stafford, it's the Lions. Wins is a team stat. 1 1
Thurman#1 Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Warcodered said: Easiest answer to this question is has Stafford won a Super Bowl? Because the answer to that question is the same. No, Stafford has never won a Super Bowl. But neither has Tom Brady. Brady has been on a Super Bowl-winning team. But he didn't win a Super Bowl. That was the entire roster of the New England Patriots and the coaching staff besides. Wins are a team stat. All a QB can do is play QB at a very high level. He can't control how well the defense plays or how often the kicker misses FGs in crucial situations. Or much of anything else. Having said all that, I'm not sure if I'd accept a Stafford-like career. I haven't really watched enough of him consistently to know him well enough. My feeling is that if I really did the research I'd probably say yes. But I can't be bothered to put in the work. Too hypothetical. From what I have seen he's been a top ten guy most years, and if that's so, then yeah, I'd be happy. Not sure if my perception is true, though. 1
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