Phil The Thrill Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 Came across this link on a Facebook group and found many Bills fans clamoring for the Bills to make a trade for OJ Howard. It doesn’t mention the Bills as a contender, but with most players on the trade block, fans were like “make this move Beane” https://www.12up.com/posts/rumors-indicate-oj-howard-could-be-dealt-from-bucs-in-potential-trade-01dq1k6mwnq5 I would love to see OJ Howard on the Bills and think he has a ton of potential and I loved him in college. I still believe he could be a Pro Bowl caliber player and I’m not sure why he’s done so little in TB. With that being said, I don’t really see the Bills making this trade. They seem to be good to be Knox starting and should have Croft again soon. Plus Lee Smith is their blocker. The bigger concern is what Evan Silva proposed - New England trading two 3rd round picks to TB for OJ. Right now the Patriots have nothing at TE. I don’t want to see Howard join that offense and give Brady a legit receiving Target at TE. 1
HOUSE Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) We don't have enough roster space for all the rumored players Edited October 13, 2019 by HOUSE 1 27 2 1
GunnerBill Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 I wasn't quite as high on Howard as the consensus coming out. I had him as a borderline 1st rather than the consensus first round possible top 10 sort of chatter at the time. My worry was production. And it still is. He is hugely gifted physically, he can catch, run routes, he could block - even if I wouldn't say his blocking was best trait. But for whatever reason his production was only okay and didn't match the obvious talent. The response at the time was "oh well Alabama doesn't use the TE position that much" but if you have a freak talent at a position you use him, surely? Similarly in Tampa the numbers are okay but don't wow you. I thought he was having himself a year last year before injury but you are still left waiting for the moment when he puts it all together and delivers on the undoubted potential. Maybe a change of scenery works for him the way it has worked for Eric Ebron (who I don't quite think was as talented as Howard but was in a similar spot prior to his signing with Indy.
freester Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 I would love OJ. He is young and has had poor coaching till this year. TE take a while to develop. I would trade Tyler Kroft and a 3rd for him.
JoPar_v2 Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 Ok, so is Howard actually “in the block,” i.e., being actively shopped by Tampa, or is this just the musings of some unnamed scouts? Because it seems like the latter. 1
ny33 Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 He’s not on the block. I don’t see why Tampa would trade him; he certainly isn’t producing and hasn’t played well overall, but it would be foolish to trade a TE like Howard when Arians needs Winston to feel as comfortable as possible and have options beyond Godwin/Evans.
Rc2catch Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said: Came across this link on a Facebook group and found many Bills fans clamoring for the Bills to make a trade for OJ Howard. It doesn’t mention the Bills as a contender, but with most players on the trade block, fans were like “make this move Beane” https://www.12up.com/posts/rumors-indicate-oj-howard-could-be-dealt-from-bucs-in-potential-trade-01dq1k6mwnq5 I would love to see OJ Howard on the Bills and think he has a ton of potential and I loved him in college. I still believe he could be a Pro Bowl caliber player and I’m not sure why he’s done so little in TB. With that being said, I don’t really see the Bills making this trade. They seem to be good to be Knox starting and should have Croft again soon. Plus Lee Smith is their blocker. The bigger concern is what Evan Silva proposed - New England trading two 3rd round picks to TB for OJ. Right now the Patriots have nothing at TE. I don’t want to see Howard join that offense and give Brady a legit receiving Target at TE. He’s done so little in Tampa because Winston is a horrible quarterback. They like to use Brate in the red zone and have seriously messed up not getting Howard involved in the offense. That said why would they even consider trading him right now? His value is at its lowest, he’s on a rookie deal, wouldn’t make any sense to trade him unless they were getting a prime time player like Melvin Gordon or something similar 1 1
aristocrat Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 some teams just dont use tight ends but watch him go to the pats and be an all pro 1
US Egg Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) So far, pseudo Bills GM lunkheads in here deemed attaining the following as must get.: A.J. Green Stephon Diggs Trent Williams Von Miller O.J. Howard Jay Agayi Edited October 13, 2019 by Hapless Bills Fan inappropriate behavior 1
SCBills Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, I am the egg man said: So far, pseudo Bills GM lunkheads in here deemed attaining the following as must do: A.J. Green Stephon Diggs Trent Williams Von Miller O.J. Howard Jay Agayi The OP was super rational in his take on OJ Howard. Seems like a weird place to put this post of yours. 4 1 1
Phil The Thrill Posted October 13, 2019 Author Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, I am the egg man said: So far, pseudo Bills GM lunkheads in here deemed attaining the following as must do: A.J. Green Stephon Diggs Trent Williams Von Miller O.J. Howard Jay Agayi You forgot Melvin Gordon 1
Coach Tuesday Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 Austin Hooper too. I’d take either or both.
US Egg Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: The OP was super rational in his take on OJ Howard. Seems like a weird place to put this post of you Super rational.....I rest my case.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I wasn't quite as high on Howard as the consensus coming out. I had him as a borderline 1st rather than the consensus first round possible top 10 sort of chatter at the time. My worry was production. And it still is. He is hugely gifted physically, he can catch, run routes, he could block - even if I wouldn't say his blocking was best trait. But for whatever reason his production was only okay and didn't match the obvious talent. The response at the time was "oh well Alabama doesn't use the TE position that much" but if you have a freak talent at a position you use him, surely? Similarly in Tampa the numbers are okay but don't wow you. I thought he was having himself a year last year before injury but you are still left waiting for the moment when he puts it all together and delivers on the undoubted potential. Maybe a change of scenery works for him the way it has worked for Eric Ebron (who I don't quite think was as talented as Howard but was in a similar spot prior to his signing with Indy. Ebron is the perfect comparison. Every time I see Ebron play, I am puzzled at how he is so mediocre. I remember a lot of people on this board were clamoring for him to be our pick that year (instead we traded up for Watkins).
Big Gun Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: Came across this link on a Facebook group and found many Bills fans clamoring for the Bills to make a trade for OJ Howard. It doesn’t mention the Bills as a contender, but with most players on the trade block, fans were like “make this move Beane” https://www.12up.com/posts/rumors-indicate-oj-howard-could-be-dealt-from-bucs-in-potential-trade-01dq1k6mwnq5 I would love to see OJ Howard on the Bills and think he has a ton of potential and I loved him in college. I still believe he could be a Pro Bowl caliber player and I’m not sure why he’s done so little in TB. With that being said, I don’t really see the Bills making this trade. They seem to be good to be Knox starting and should have Croft again soon. Plus Lee Smith is their blocker. The bigger concern is what Evan Silva proposed - New England trading two 3rd round picks to TB for OJ. Right now the Patriots have nothing at TE. I don’t want to see Howard join that offense and give Brady a legit receiving Target at TE. Lets trade for everybody and sign all free agents then maybe these stupid threads will stop.
TheBillsOrDie Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, freester said: I would love OJ. He is young and has had poor coaching till this year. TE take a while to develop. I would trade Tyler Kroft and a 3rd for him. Oh no....... that would be a huge mistake .
jkeerie Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: some teams just dont use tight ends but watch him go to the pats and be an all pro The Pats are looking to trade for a star WR or TE. There was an article in Yardbarker that I read last night. Whoever does make a trade with them (and we know someone will) it better be for a lot. I hate it when they are able to get star players for a 4th round pick.
Freddie's Dead Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 We had our OJ already, gave me acid reflux. I'm good with Hard Knox. 1 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 3 hours ago, HOUSE said: We don't have enough roster space for all these rumored players Well played. Well played. Seriously: Every time a trade is proposed, I think the proposer should suggest what player we cut to make room, and why. 2
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