Dr.Sack Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 In review of the epic showdown two weeks ago, it seemed we let an easily winnable game slip through our fingertips. Sometimes outcomes of games can change based on one or two critical decisions. Here is a strategy we should have employed to win the game knowing we were in a low scoring street fight. Sure Allen struggled, but the Bills moved the ball enough to win the game and were in scoring range. Against a team like NE you need to have drives that end in scores. 3rd & 9 ball on NE 35 1st Quarter 3:39. Actual play: Allen is sacked for a 7 yard loss. Bills punt. Score 0-13. Better play: Bills run a draw / run to Yeldon or Gore and pick up 5 yards. It's 4th & 4 on the NE 30. Hauschka drills a 48 yard FG. Score 3-13. 3rd & 10 ball on NE 26 2nd Quarter 0:29. Actual play: Allen is sacked for a 5 yard loss. Hauschka misses the ensuing 49 yard FG. Score 3-13 at halftime. Better play: Again another draw / run to Yeldon or Gore that picks up 3 yards, it's 4th and 7 on the NE 23. Hauschka drills a 41 yard FG. Score is now 9-13. Bills go on to take a 16 to 13 lead on the Allen 1 yard rush. Allen might not get the concussion, but let's assume it still happened. Due to Bills having the lead they kick a FG on 4th & 3 at the NE 3. Hauschka converts a 21 chip shot. Score 19-13. Final Bills 19 New England 13. 6 1
TroutDog Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 These are always fun but, in reality, everything would change after the first change. I’m with you, it was a winnable game. What matters to me at this point is that Josh learns that he MUST protect the ball above all else. 6 2 1
DBilz2500 Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 Score effects would change how NE would be playing as well. They would be playing to score at end instead of take a knee and play calling and strategy would be different from their end. 1
Warcodered Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 So if they gain 3 yards a 49yd kick becomes 41?
947 Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 Yep. Gain 3 yards instead of losing 5 yards on the sack.
The Wiz Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 How the bills could have won on 1 play: Don't get the punt blocked and play how they were all game. Final score NE 9, BUF 10 13 1 4
BuffAlone Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 this is an absolute fruitless exercise. everything changes after the first point has altered. 4
Magox Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So if they gain 3 yards a 49yd kick becomes 41? 3 + 5 = 8 1
Warcodered Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, 947 said: Yep. Gain 3 yards instead of losing 5 yards on the sack. 4 minutes ago, The Wiz said: How the bills could have won on 1 play: Don't get the punt blocked and play how they were all game. Final score NE 9, BUF 10 2 minutes ago, Magox said: 3 + 5 = 8 Right I missed the 5.
cba fan Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: In review of the epic showdown two weeks ago, it seemed we let an easily winnable game slip through our fingertips. Sometimes outcomes of games can change based on one or two critical decisions. Here is a strategy we should have employed to win the game knowing we were in a low scoring street fight. Sure Allen struggled, but the Bills moved the ball enough to win the game and were in scoring range. Against a team like NE you need to have drives that end in scores. 3rd & 9 ball on NE 35 1st Quarter 3:39. Actual play: Allen is sacked for a 7 yard loss. Bills punt. Score 0-13. Better play: Bills run a draw / run to Yeldon or Gore and pick up 5 yards. It's 4th & 4 on the NE 30. Hauschka drills a 48 yard FG. Score 3-13. 3rd & 10 ball on NE 26 2nd Quarter 0:29. Actual play: Allen is sacked for a 5 yard loss. Hauschka misses the ensuing 49 yard FG. Score 3-13 at halftime. Better play: Again another draw / run to Yeldon or Gore that picks up 3 yards, it's 4th and 7 on the NE 23. Hauschka drills a 41 yard FG. Score is now 9-13. Bills go on to take a 16 to 13 lead on the Allen 1 yard rush. Allen might not get the concussion, but let's assume it still happened. Due to Bills having the lead they kick a FG on 4th & 3 at the NE 3. Hauschka converts a 21 chip shot. Score 19-13. Final Bills 19 New England 13. that game completely turned when the Int, that Zay let the CB jump over him as he watched, was incorrectly ruled a completion even after review. Zay was standing out of bounds while contacting the player and ball as the Patriot was still in the air and had not touched down at all yet. This should have been an in-completion. This led to 3 pts for Pats and changed strategy immensely going forward. Bills could have kicked a few field goals when getting close and facing 4th down instead of going for it. Bills well could have won the way Bills D was playing that day. 1
4merper4mer Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 3rd and a half to goal instead of bogus ref spot on 2 after Brown's catch could have resulted in a TD easily. 2
BringBackOrton Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: In review of the epic showdown two weeks ago, it seemed we let an easily winnable game slip through our fingertips. Sometimes outcomes of games can change based on one or two critical decisions. Here is a strategy we should have employed to win the game knowing we were in a low scoring street fight. Sure Allen struggled, but the Bills moved the ball enough to win the game and were in scoring range. Against a team like NE you need to have drives that end in scores. 3rd & 9 ball on NE 35 1st Quarter 3:39. Actual play: Allen is sacked for a 7 yard loss. Bills punt. Score 0-13. Better play: Bills run a draw / run to Yeldon or Gore and pick up 5 yards. It's 4th & 4 on the NE 30. Hauschka drills a 48 yard FG. Score 3-13. 3rd & 10 ball on NE 26 2nd Quarter 0:29. Actual play: Allen is sacked for a 5 yard loss. Hauschka misses the ensuing 49 yard FG. Score 3-13 at halftime. Better play: Again another draw / run to Yeldon or Gore that picks up 3 yards, it's 4th and 7 on the NE 23. Hauschka drills a 41 yard FG. Score is now 9-13. Bills go on to take a 16 to 13 lead on the Allen 1 yard rush. Allen might not get the concussion, but let's assume it still happened. Due to Bills having the lead they kick a FG on 4th & 3 at the NE 3. Hauschka converts a 21 chip shot. Score 19-13. Final Bills 19 New England 13. Allen could have just thrown the ball away like a good QB. Don’t need different playcalls, just our QB to use that thing between his ears.
Thurman#1 Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Here is a strategy we should have employed to win the game knowing we were in a low scoring street fight. Final Bills 19 New England 13. It's easy to play that game if you assume that just because you call a run that we gain yardage. Life doesn't work that way. Very very (very) few Pats games over the past 15 years have been low-scoring street fights. It's only in hindsight that you can make that assumption. Over the years, teams that settle for FGs against the Pats lose by being outscored. There were a lot of plays where if the Bills had done better they'd have won. That's how it works in close games. There were also a lot of plays where if the Pats had done better they'd have won by more. I thought sure you would refer to the punt block. I have no problem with going pass on those two plays. Throw the ball away if rushed. Or make the field goal. Edited October 12, 2019 by Thurman#1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Right I missed the 5. Always assume there is a 5 when adding or subtracting numbers under 10. It’s a prime. Pretty much learn that day one in home school.
GreggTX Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Punt doesn't get blocked and returned for a TD. Bills win 10-9. Oh wait. They missed the PAT. My bad. Well, we would have won in OT then, right? Edited October 12, 2019 by GreggTX
Freddie's Dead Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 Refs call the PI/facemask/holding on Gilmore vs. Smoke, and it's 1st and goal for the Bills at the Cheats 9 yard line. Refs call the facemask on Josh instead of the INT on the sidelines which ended Zay's career in Buffalo? Bills still driving... 1
Doc Brown Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: 3rd & 9 ball on NE 35 1st Quarter 3:39. Actual play: Allen is sacked for a 7 yard loss. Bills punt. Score 0-13. Better play: Bills run a draw / run to Yeldon or Gore and pick up 5 yards. It's 4th & 4 on the NE 30. Hauschka drills a 48 yard FG. Score 3-13. 3rd & 10 ball on NE 26 2nd Quarter 0:29. Actual play: Allen is sacked for a 5 yard loss. Hauschka misses the ensuing 49 yard FG. Score 3-13 at halftime. Better play: Again another draw / run to Yeldon or Gore that picks up 3 yards, it's 4th and 7 on the NE 23. Hauschka drills a 41 yard FG. Score is now 9-13. You have to trust your quarterback to throw it away if the play's not there to stay in field goal range. A draw up the middle to ensure a field goal but pry not a first down is way too conservative. Edited October 12, 2019 by Doc Brown 1
CommonCents Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 If we are doing this, I’d say activating Duke and benching Zay could have been the difference. Would Duke have gave up on the pick? Would Duke have changed the play calling inside the 5 at the end of the game?
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) If John Brown doesn’t get tackled on the 1 with a wide open corner and only Gilmore to beat Edited October 13, 2019 by Brianmoorman4jesus
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