BigDingus Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Have to run, passing is futile at this point against them. They're talking about it right now on the post game, the Pats defense is playing at historically great levels and is on pace to go down as the top defense of ALL TIME. Our offense has no chance passing against them, so better get that run game going...It's our only shot.
Bangarang Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: Ratings. The story. Continuing to market their biggest star. I’d argue Brady isn’t the biggest star anymore (if he ever was). And I would imagine that NFL fans are tired of seeing the Patriots win all the time. If it’s all about ratings then why aren’t the Cowboys competing in SBs? Edited October 11, 2019 by Bangarang
Thurman#1 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: The Bills need to go heavy and run right at them. Use 3 tight ends, Lee Smith, Dawson Knox and hopefully Tyler Kroft. The Backfield is Gore and DiMarco. And only one receiver Smoke. 3 tight ends forces them to adjust their secondary and put a LB on a tightend. Then run at them all day. It wont have an impact at first but you will slowly wear them down and your defense will keep you in the game. Pound the rock with carries to Singletary. . This should slowly tip the time of possession in the Bills favor and Brady might press to impress the home crowd and commit a turnover. It also takes a lot of pressure off Allen and opens up play action. IMO, running is just the half of it. You've got to do both well, and mix them unpredictably. The Pats are damn good at stopping the run when they know it's coming. Edited October 11, 2019 by Thurman#1
WideNine Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, billspro said: They can stop the run if they want to. They just play nickel most of the time so it seems like that is a weakness. They have two legit run stopping DTs though. We played a great game against them last time. If we do the same thing again and eliminate the turnovers we have a chance. Foster would have made a huge impact with the deep ball. We need Singletary if we want to run more, that was a big factor last game. Duke will make a difference in the red zone. Our offence is going to be a lot better next time we face them. their run defense has not been AS tested as their pass defense because only one team shut down Brady this year and had the luxury of being able to pound the rock all game long - our Bills. Everyone else is forced to pass to try to catch up with a token run here or there. Pittsburgh - 12 rushing attempts could not stop NE scoring Miami - 14x buried by NE scoring Jets ran Bell, but NE keyed on him and the Jets are pretty limited offensively - NE kept him bottled up and the Jets could not stop Brady Bills - Gore 17X for 109 yds and we gave Brady fits. Redskins - 18x by committee for 131yds, could not keep pace with NE scoring abandoned it in the 3rd.
TwistofFate Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) New England is over rated. I've stated this a few times already. They were exposed again tonight. The defense is over rated, and the offense is not what its cracked up to be. The second new England has to face a team that has an offense that is CONSISTENT, doesn't make multiple mistakes with costly turn overs, they will lose. Their defense has had to face Allen a second year player, Jones a rookie, Falk a practice squad Qb, Roth who was clearly facing a nagging injury in his throwing arm, Haskins a rookie Qb, and Rosen a second year player. They have had the success against inexperienced Qbs, and offenses that cant get out of their own way. Put them against the Chiefs, Texans, even the Ravens at this point, and they will fold. No way New England wins the AFC crown this year. The way to beat them is consistency. They are not a powerhouse and have weakness everywhere. They should not have escaped us and im sure counted their blessings to escape Buffalo with a win. Edited October 11, 2019 by TwistofFate 1 1
TwistofFate Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: But why do you think the league wants them to win? After deflate gate, that had to be an absolute nightmare for Goodell to hand them the Lombardi. Because NE is the second highest revenue stream in the NFL? Tom Brady's legacy sells and they push home his age as a marketing tactic? Goodell is friends with Kraft? Tom Brady's jersey is STILL the number one selling jersey in the NFL? There's a multitude of reasons the league wants them to win. Those pats defenders were literally DRAPED all over the Gs WRs tonight. Not one call for pi, when it was clearly visible contact was being made before the ball even arrived. Mike Pereira made the comment that even though a giants reciever was being hanged all over and clear visible contact was happening, it "wasn't enough of a hindrance" to call PI. Funny, I always thought PI is PI. You engaged in contact after 5 yards before the ball got there, its PI. But with the Pats we can now subjectively call PI? BS. 2 1
MJS Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 How to beat the Pats? You can't. They're now allowed to interfere on every pass.
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, KD in CA said: Oh well, at least Edelman broke 100 yards for me. Same, wish he would've had those TDs Marsha decided to sneak
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 How to beat everyone even in this pass happy league.
LeGOATski Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 5 hours ago, KD in CA said: You beat NE the same way teams have always done it — by stopping Brady. If Josh finds the open receivers instead of chucking it into a crowd deep multiple times, the Bills probably win two weeks ago And by the refs not picking up obvious PI flags... 1
row_33 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: I do think NE gets more calls as Tom Brady gets the “Michael Jordan” treatment from the refs. But why do you think the league wants them to win? After deflate gate, that had to be an absolute nightmare for Goodell to hand them the Lombardi. So Jordan was just a.creation of reffing? what is wrong with you...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Gore busted two runs against them... But was caught.
GunnerBill Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 4 hours ago, billspro said: They can stop the run if they want to. They just play nickel most of the time so it seems like that is a weakness. They have two legit run stopping DTs though. We played a great game against them last time. If we do the same thing again and eliminate the turnovers we have a chance. Foster would have made a huge impact with the deep ball. We need Singletary if we want to run more, that was a big factor last game. Duke will make a difference in the red zone. Our offence is going to be a lot better next time we face them. I agree with this. If you commit to the run you better believe they will shut that down straight away. 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 4 hours ago, TwistofFate said: Because NE is the second highest revenue stream in the NFL? Tom Brady's legacy sells and they push home his age as a marketing tactic? Goodell is friends with Kraft? Tom Brady's jersey is STILL the number one selling jersey in the NFL? There's a multitude of reasons the league wants them to win. Those pats defenders were literally DRAPED all over the Gs WRs tonight. Not one call for pi, when it was clearly visible contact was being made before the ball even arrived. Mike Pereira made the comment that even though a giants reciever was being hanged all over and clear visible contact was happening, it "wasn't enough of a hindrance" to call PI. Funny, I always thought PI is PI. You engaged in contact after 5 yards before the ball got there, its PI. But with the Pats we can now subjectively call PI? BS. Is the stadium paid off yet? All Krafty's $$$$$. For the last 17 years if they don't get butts in there... Happy Ending Bobby goes belly up. Belly up may be great for a handy... But not for keeping a mortgage on a stadium current. 1
Samwell Tarly Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 How to beat the Patriots? 1. No turnovers. None. Zero. 2. NO STUPID PENALTIES!! 3. Sustain drives. Run if that works for you, but move the chains, eat the clock. Get points out of as many as possible and pin them deep when you can't. 4. Get in Brady's face early and often. If you can knock him around without drawing a flag, do it. He's a rythm passer and you have to break his concentration. 5. NEVER let up. I don't care if you are ahead 40 to 0. No lead is safe.
Trogdor Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 6 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: I do think NE gets more calls as Tom Brady gets the “Michael Jordan” treatment from the refs. But why do you think the league wants them to win? After deflate gate, that had to be an absolute nightmare for Goodell to hand them the Lombardi. Did you watch Jordan's games? That's a bad analogy. Maybe LeBron treatment is closer.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Augie said: Raise your hand if you remember how demoralizing it was to have Legarrette Blount shoved down our throat and there was nothing we could do about it. To be able to run on a team and make them wish the game would just end is like winning TWICE. Then? You go over the top because everyone is in the box.? We showed we could run on the Pats, even without Singletary. Not sure why we went deep so often, but I think we are smart enough to learn and evolve.
Real McClappy Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 BB is playing old school ball right now on both sides leaning heavy on his D. Against the Pats, run it down their throats to setup up some pretty 1:1 play action passes.
CommonCents Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 You’re not going to beat the Patriots by being one dimensional. You need to flirt with the things that you don’t do well just to keep them off balance. That will allow you to be successful when you run your normal offense.
CLTbills Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Augie said: I’m still for pounding it down their throats. Gore was like 9 for 88 yards early I think, but we kept chucking the ball long for some reason. The only game we have done that, the only game we have lost. Josh didn’t have time for the long ball, but kept trying the whole first half. We can beat them, even on the road, if we play a little smarter. A bad ST moment and a head shot to Allen took away our chances. Not taking points when we had the opportunity hurt, too. We kick the FG on 4th and goal from the two (I was actually in favor of going for the TD, but coming away with nothing changed the complexion of the game) and that last drive is a heck of a lot different situation, only needing 3 instead of 6. Barkley had actually done a nice job of moving the ball to that point.
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