mannc Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Buffalo716 said: You don't account for draft busts How many of the 15-20 players in bama who gets drafted or make the roster stick for 5+ years? How many become NFL impact players ? And how many become bench players and fringe guys? They don't have 20 long term NFL starter's Not too many busts come out of schools like Bama and Clemson. And I'm pretty sure the Dolphins don't have anywhere near "20 long term NFL starters." Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, mannc said: Not too many busts come out of schools like Bama and Clemson. And I'm pretty sure the Dolphins don't have anywhere near "20 long term NFL starters." Actually bama has tons of busts and guys who don't become starter's 1 Quote
mannc Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: People who never played don't understand this, but it's just reality. Not according to NFL players who actually played at Alabama. I think they might have a pretty good idea. Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, mannc said: Not too many busts come out of schools like Bama and Clemson. And I'm pretty sure the Dolphins don't have anywhere near "20 long term NFL starters." I can promise you the Dolphins don't. Quote
GoBills808 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 People asked this question about the Bills last year. The defense the Bills are running ie a top notch NFL defense shutting down NFL caliber teams full of NFL caliber talent...this year is pretty much exactly the same as last year. People were saying Alabama would have had a shot to compete. It's complete lunacy. Quote
mannc Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Actually bama has tons of busts and guys who don't become starter's And every guy on the Dolphins is a bona fide NFL star? Just now, GoBills808 said: People asked this question about the Bills last year. The defense the Bills are running ie a top notch NFL defense shutting down NFL caliber teams full of NFL caliber talent...this year is pretty much exactly the same as last year. People were saying Alabama would have had a shot to compete. It's complete lunacy. We're not talking about the Bills. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Seems like we've hashed this out every season, often with our Bills as the hapless pro team suggested as losing. The outcome is always that good as Alabama is, the overall quality of the roster on the worst pro team is just better. Quote
GoBills808 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, mannc said: Not according to NFL players who actually played at Alabama. I think they might have a pretty good idea. Might they be a little biased? Q. Williams, guaranteed Bama stud top of the table 2019...injured and largely ineffective his first year thus far. It's just a different game. 1 minute ago, mannc said: And every guy on the Dolphins is a bona fide NFL star? We're not talking about the Bills. It was the Bills last year tho...and it's still a no brainer. Quote
mannc Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Seems like we've hashed this out every season, often with our Bills as the hapless pro team suggested as losing. The outcome is always that good as Alabama is, the overall quality of the roster on the worst pro team is just better. Really? When was that decided? Quote
wiskibreth Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 I wish they would play the scenario out just to end the discussion. I guarantee they would never do it again. Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, mannc said: Thank you for offering actual facts. I'm pretty sure you'll be one of the few in this thread to do so. My favorite responses are the ones that say the Tide players would all be seriously injured, as if these SEC players aren't all grown-ass men. You do realize that two SEC grown ass men olinemen, Jonah Williams and Williams on the Jets are already hurt right? Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mannc said: And every guy on the Dolphins is a bona fide NFL star? We're not talking about the Bills. Fitz , devanate Parker, Jakeem Grant, Kenyan Drake , mike gasecki and Allen hurns would put up 45 atleast on bama Probably 50+ Edited October 9, 2019 by Buffalo716 2 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, mannc said: There was a long thread on this issue last year, and the majority of the posts saying Alabama would get killed are like this one by Buffalo716: No real evidence offered (other than misinformation), just blanket statements with nothing to back them up. Fact: All 22 starters on Alabama this year will have a shot in the NFL, and perhaps 15-18 will make NFL rosters. Of those, most will be drafted and there are probably 6-8 who will be first round picks, although not all in 2020. On the 90-man roster, I'd guess that there are 40 or more who will have a very good shot at playing pro football. Unlike NFL teams, Alabama is not limited to one first round pick per year; each recruiting class has probably 4 to 6 future first or second round picks. Clemson and Ohio State aren't far behind. Miami on the other hand probably has 10 players who wouldn't make most NFL rosters and has a number of guys on their team who probably would not start for Alabama. Robert Foster, for example, was the Bills' best receiver last year and he was a backup at Alabama the previous year. I think it would be a competitive game and there's a good chance Alabama would win. It would be a blowout. Every rookie will tell you the hardest thing to adjust to is the NFL speed. These Alabama players have never seen it but you think they’ll just adjust to it immediately in a 4 quarter game? Some of their starters are still teenagers. I forgot which rookie QB said it a few years ago....but basically said in college you’ll get about 5 different looks on defense. In the NFL...it’s 20. The playbook is 1/5 of the size. Miami would win by 40. 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Fitz , devanate Parker, Jakeem Grant, Kenyan Drake , mike gasecki and Allen hurns would put up 45 atleast on bama How soon people forget about Johnny 8 Ball and Swag Kelly lighting up Alabama. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: It would be a blowout. Every rookie will tell you the hardest thing to adjust to is the NFL speed. These Alabama players have never seen it but you think they’ll just adjust to it immediately in a 4 quarter game? Some of their starters are still teenagers. I forgot which rookie QB said it a few years ago....but basically said in college you’ll get about 5 different looks on defense. In the NFL...it’s 20. The playbook is 1/5 of the size. Miami would win by 40. Asinine thread 1 Quote
Augie Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 47 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The Dolphins would beat them by 40. Bama has a bunch of NFL players on the roster. The Dolphins have 100% NFL players, if not top tier guys. Bama’s best might be the stars on Miami, but you need a complete roster to play an NFL game. 1 Quote
Augie Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Asinine thread Yet it seems to happen every year...... Quote
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