timekills17 Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) While watching the All-22 I noticed when JA lined up in shotgun that the RG would check the line for set, and would tap the center just before the snap.You can see some good examples of this in the 1st and 3rd quarters of the all-22 footage because the camera is to the Bills back in those quarters. For example< watch the Bills' first offensive series starting around the 4 minute mark of the all-22 footage.The RG signaling the center that the line is set isn't that unusual; what interested me was the timing of the snap did not seem to vary after the tap for the entire game.I'll have to watch this and see if they're trying to set the opponent's d-line up at some point by delaying the snap to pull an encroachment/Offside. I assume this was their version of the silent snap to combat crowd noise (not that crowd noise was a problem this week.) It was a little concerning that the entire game, probably 70% in shotgun, the timing was tap, half-second delay, snap. If I were a left side d-line/LB I'd key off that at least once. Edited October 8, 2019 by timekills17
TroutDog Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 That’s how they tell the center to snap when it’s too loud. It’s happened for years. 2 1
timekills17 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, TroutDog said: That’s how they tell the center to snap when it’s too loud. It’s happened for years. Yes - I wrote that in my OP. That wasn't the question I posed; it was reference the lack of changing the timing the entire game. 1
Augie Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, TroutDog said: That’s how they tell the center to snap when it’s too loud. It’s happened for years. Maybe (probably?) unrelated, but at the game I didn’t realize Morse was hurt until late. When did he get hurt? I missed it. I’m glad he was an ankle instead of another concussion guy!
iinii Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, timekills17 said: Yes - I wrote that in my OP. That wasn't the question I posed; it was reference the lack of changing the timing the entire game. As TroutDog said it has been going on forever and I hear you. You’d think some D lineman would have caught on by now but..... 2
Rock'em Sock'em Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 You can go "on two" with a second tap. It's not too different than a audible snap count. 1
timekills17 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, iinii said: As TroutDog said it has been going on forever and I hear you. You’d think some D lineman would have caught on by now but..... I suppose its a bit of "I know you know" game going on. The defense won't use it until its critical, but they know the offense knows its a critical play, and the offense might decide to try and fool them by changing it on that play... But heck, I'd try jumping on the tap at least once. It would force the offense to get out of rhythm.
Bray Wyatt Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 They do mix it up sometimes and do two taps just to keep the defense honest, not sure if they did that this game but I know I’ve seen it before 1
freddyjj Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, Augie said: Maybe (probably?) unrelated, but at the game I didn’t realize Morse was hurt until late. When did he get hurt? I missed it. I’m glad he was an ankle instead of another concussion guy! Midway through first half 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Isn’t this what you would call a “tell”? Time the tap to snap and get a jump.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 I think it is probably harder to see the guard moving his hand while watching the ball when it is really loud. With that much noise the defenders can't hear the QB either.
Rubes Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Augie said: Maybe (probably?) unrelated, but at the game I didn’t realize Morse was hurt until late. When did he get hurt? I missed it. I’m glad he was an ankle instead of another concussion guy! Don’t be too happy...ankles (especially high ankle sprains) can keep a guy out longer than concussions in many cases. 1
Augie Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rubes said: Don’t be too happy...ankles (especially high ankle sprains) can keep a guy out longer than concussions in many cases. True, a high ankle sprain can go a LOOOONG time, but another concussion would make me question his career.
Rubes Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Augie said: True, a high ankle sprain can go a LOOOONG time, but another concussion would make me question his career. Good point...
MJS Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Also the broadcast has a good vantage point to see it, but I doubt all the defensive linemen can see it. One or two of them can for sure, but the guys on the edge probably don't.
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 It's an exception to the false start rule, which allows the guard to move in order to signal the center.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, iinii said: As TroutDog said it has been going on forever and I hear you. You’d think some D lineman would have caught on by now but..... Well thanks a bunch, blabbermouth! ? * ? Edited October 9, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013
BritBill Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 I always thought the center getting a tap was related to the play clock. The Guard is in more advantageous head position to see the clock. Gives the center a tap on 5 seconds left.
DCbillsfan Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Augie said: Maybe (probably?) unrelated, but at the game I didn’t realize Morse was hurt until late. When did he get hurt? I missed it. I’m glad he was an ankle instead of another concussion guy! He was out with about 7 minutes left in 2nd quarter 1
Bookie Man Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 I remember when the line used to hold hands when it was too loud to hear. As soon as your inside hand moved, you can move also.
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