Simon Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Before that final drive when they went to clock-killing mode, I think the Bills pass:run ration was close to 3 : 1. Brian Daboll really needs to recognize what kind of defense he's got complimenting him and start approaching his play-calling duties a little less tactically and a little more strategically. There's no reason your 23yr old wet-behind-the-ears QB needs to be dropping back 40 times in a game in which you haven't played from behind for a single second. I think Coach needs to trust his defense and take pressure off his OLine by calling games a bit more conservatively. 6 3 2
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Definitely need to be running more, in this game and in general. Allen is still too green to be Aaron Rodgers (who hasnt done much without a run game either)
TroutDog Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 I believe when Singletary comes back you’ll see more running. 7 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Simon said: Before that final drive when they went to clock-killing mode, I think the Bills pass:run ration was close to 3 : 1. Brian Daboll really needs to recognize what kind of defense he's got complimenting him and start approaching his play-calling duties a little less tactically and a little more strategically. There's no reason your 23yr old wet-behind-the-ears QB needs to be dropping back 40 times in a game in which you haven't played from behind for a single second. I think Coach needs to trust his defense and take pressure off his OLine by calling games a bit more conservatively. Agreed, but to achieve that he needs more depth at running back. He’s a bit afraid to overload Gore and who else does he got? 3
nedboy7 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Agreed, but to achieve that he needs more depth at running back. He’s a bit afraid to overload Gore and who else does he got? One injury shouldn't put us in this position. 1
Billsfan1972 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 This offence still is terrible. With a good running attack & good QB'ing they need have tp start scoring more. Daboll is still not winning the coaching battle. 1
Just Joshin' Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Agreed, but to achieve that he needs more depth at running back. He’s a bit afraid to overload Gore and who else does he got? Gore was fresh at the end and it paid off. Not sure that was the strategy but it worked.
GreggTX Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) I couldn't agree more. Frank Gore was excellent and Yeldon didn't fumble. Hopefully Singletary will be 100% before the Philly game. I've been impressed what we've been able to achieve with even a backup OL at several positions. It isn't always pretty, but they can still grind out a few tough yards. We really need to run the ball more, though. If you aren't scoring, at least move the chains and eat up the clock to make it easier on your defense. Besides, you can wear down a defense like that. I was extremely pleased at how well we ran the ball at the end of the game to close it out. Gore was excellent when it counted most. Edited October 6, 2019 by GreggTX 1
Matt_In_NH Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 I disagree. The bills run the ball a high percentage of the time when you compare to the nfl. This offense is a modern nfl offense for the first time in line forever. They need to clean up the mistakes by the qb and they will be pretty good. 2 2
PromoTheRobot Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 This was not the defense to try to run against. They played it right. 7
Phil The Thrill Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Simon said: Before that final drive when they went to clock-killing mode, I think the Bills pass:run ration was close to 3 : 1. Brian Daboll really needs to recognize what kind of defense he's got complimenting him and start approaching his play-calling duties a little less tactically and a little more strategically. There's no reason your 23yr old wet-behind-the-ears QB needs to be dropping back 40 times in a game in which you haven't played from behind for a single second. I think Coach needs to trust his defense and take pressure off his OLine by calling games a bit more conservatively. I do think they can call more run plays - especially when it seems that the strength of their line is blocking for the run and not the pass. But I like how Daboll is giving Allen every chance to throw the football. The worst thing he could do would be to have Allen throw 15-20 passes and baby Josh. We need to see what he has as a passer and whether he’s the QB of the future. You can’t do that if you have him throw 20 passes a game. 3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: This offence still is terrible. With a good running attack & good QB'ing they need have tp start scoring more. Daboll is still not winning the coaching battle. They aren’t scoring but if you look at the performance they routinely out gain opponents of offense. They aren’t scoring because of a QB who is turning the ball over a LOT. 1 1
Teddy KGB Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: This was not the defense to try to run against. They played it right. What about the end of the game when they ran it on them when they knew it was coming? What is the basis of your post ?
1ManRaid Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, GreggTX said: I couldn't agree more. Frank Gore was excellent and Yeldon didn't fumble. Hopefully Singletary will be 100% before the Philly game. I've been impressed what we've been able to achieve with even a backup OL at several positions. It isn't always pretty, but they can still grind out a few tough yards. We really need to run the ball more, though. If you aren't scoring, at least move the chains and eat up the clock to make it easier on your defense. Besides, you can wear down a defense like that. I was extremely pleased at how well we ran the ball at the end of the game to close it out. Gore was excellent when it counted most. Gore wasn't excellent till the last drive of the game, salvaging his yards per carry average with 10+ yard runs. Just now, Teddy KGB said: What about the end of the game when they ran it on them when they knew it was coming? What is the basis of your post ? Fluke, different playcalling, o-line finally deciding to step up, whatever. What's YOUR point?
Simon Posted October 6, 2019 Author Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: 40 times? Last I counted it was 32, and 2 of those were basically handoffs to sweeping receivers. The box score shows Allen with 10 carries and I can't imagine more than a couple of them were designed as runs with him coming off a concussion.
Teddy KGB Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Fluke, different playcalling, o-line finally deciding to step up, whatever. What's YOUR point? Ahhhh a fluke ???. The defense rests your honor ??♂️
vincec Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Agreed, but to achieve that he needs more depth at running back. He’s a bit afraid to overload Gore and who else does he got? I agree, but whose fault is that? There were plenty of other RBs that he could have on the roster. Murphy for example. Instead, they have 6 WRs active.
Ta111 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, vincec said: I agree, but whose fault is that? There were plenty of other RBs that he could have on the roster. Murphy for example. Instead, they have 6 WRs active. And yet we won. Who would have thought?
Lurker Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Teams are over-playing the run, daring Allen to be the difference maker. I like that Daboll has enough confidence in Josh to say, "OK, have it your way. We'll beat you through the air"
Kelly the Dog Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Simon said: The box score shows Allen with 10 carries and I can't imagine more than a couple of them were designed as runs with him coming off a concussion. Two were sneaks, one was a designed run, and a couple were kneel downs at the end I think. We had mostly zero blocking in the run game until the last drive, which was huge. But it was mostly awful before the last three minutes. 2
Simon Posted October 6, 2019 Author Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Two were sneaks, one was a designed run, and a couple were kneel downs at the end I think. We had mostly zero blocking in the run game until the last drive, which was huge. But it was mostly awful before the last three minutes. Thanks man, didn't see the game today. 35 dropbacks looks a little better than 40.
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