YoloinOhio Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Edited October 4, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 3
TroutDog Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Great info and disrupts part of the narrative on this board.
HOUSE Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) The short passes haven't been great either. Beasley needs to catch with his shoes Edited October 4, 2019 by HOUSE 2 3
LeGOATski Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 I'm not too concerned about the deep stuff right now, since teams know that's a threat and they're focusing on it. Daboll put more emphasis on the short game this year, as necessary. Once they establish success with short passing and the run game, they should have higher-percentage opportunities in the deep game later. 4
Buffalo716 Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Some of his numbers are definitely off.. he says Josh is 0-7 with a pick on passes 30 yards downfield... Next gen stats says Josh Allen's longest completion by air distance is 42.5 https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing
Alphadawg7 Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 We need to dial back how many deep balls we are throwing in the first place. We only have one deep threat on the field most times in Brown, and he's getting most the defensive attention out there. Cole is too small to run deep, Zay is well Zay, and Foster has been barely used when healthy or just not healthy. Daboll needs to do a better job on game planning. Its like he knows he has powerful race car in the garage, but forgets he has a talented but raw "Cole Trickle" behind the wheel, who just learned to drive race cars watching ESPN, and not ready to be fully unleashed yet and a pit crew around him still learning to work with each other. Boom! "Days of Thunder" analogy and it totally works ? #DaysOfThunder #GoBills 1 2 2 1
billsfan1959 Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Allen has improved greatly in the short game and, honestly, is probably best in the 20-25 yard range. I don't know why all the concern on deep passes as they shouldn't be calling that many of them anyway with the receivers they have outside of Brown. 1 2
MDH Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 8:58 PM, Buffalo716 said: Some of his numbers are definitely off.. he says Josh is 0-7 with a pick on passes 30 yards downfield... Next gen stats says Josh Allen's longest completion by air distance is 42.5 https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing Expand Air distance and distance downfield past the line of scrimmage aren't the same thing (those are called “air yards”) Air distance measures the actual distance the ball was in the air, not the yards past the line of scrimmage the wr caught the ball. 1
HOUSE Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 9:11 PM, fansince88 said: I have 2 words for you. Duke Williams. Expand I like your words 1 1
Buffalo716 Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 9:12 PM, MDH said: Air distance and distance downfield past the line of scrimmage aren't the same thing (those are called “air yards”) Air distance measures the actual distance the ball was in the air, not the yards past the line of scrimmage the wr caught the ball. Expand So basically it's counting his dropback and possibly yards across the field which wouldn't be picked up 2
fansince88 Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 9:14 PM, HOUSE said: I like your words Expand Well, thank you! 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 8:43 PM, TroutDog said: Great info and disrupts part of the narrative on this board. Expand How so? Curious... I haven’t seen any claims of Allen having been accurate with his deep ball? On 10/4/2019 at 9:11 PM, fansince88 said: I have 2 words for you. Duke Williams. Expand Why? He isn’t fast
MDH Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 9:02 PM, Alphadawg7 said: We need to dial back how many deep balls we are throwing in the first place. We only have one deep threat on the field most times in Brown, and he's getting most the defensive attention out there. Cole is too small to run deep, Zay is well Zay, and Foster has been barely used when healthy or just not healthy. Daboll needs to do a better job on game planning. Its like he knows he has powerful race car in the garage, but forgets he has a talented but raw "Cole Trickle" behind the wheel, who just learned to drive race cars watching ESPN, and not ready to be fully unleashed yet and a pit crew around him still learning to work with each other. Boom! "Days of Thunder" analogy and it totally works ? #DaysOfThunder #GoBills Expand My movie analogy for Allen is Nuke Laloosh from Bull Durham. “I want to bring the heat, announce my presence with authority!’ “This guys a first ball fastball hitter” “So what? He aint seen my heat.” 1 1
TroutDog Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 9:17 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: How so? Curious... I haven’t seen any claims of Allen having been accurate with his deep ball? Why? He isn’t fast Expand Agreed. They were stating that last year he was nailing them and it’s just not true. Apologies, should have been more clear.
london_bills Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On every one of those deep balls there's an underneath route open. 1
Victory Formation Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 8:45 PM, LeGOATski said: I'm not too concerned about the deep stuff right now, since teams know that's a threat and they're focusing on it. Daboll put more emphasis on the short game this year, as necessary. Once they establish success with short passing and the run game, they should have higher-percentage opportunities in the deep game later. Expand He’s had opportunities though, he just misfires.
fansince88 Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 9:17 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: How so? Curious... I haven’t seen any claims of Allen having been accurate with his deep ball? Why? He isn’t fast Expand I only wanted to use 2 words. Limited me quite a bit. But did you see the size of his hands?
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