njbuff Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: Why is it that a lot of Bills "Fan's" IQ's drop considerably after 1 loss? So many of you are out of your near-sighted minds right now. He had 1 bad half. Get over yourselves, please. A bunch of whiney little ***** in here. Didn't you know that the Bills were supposed to go 16-0 and that Allen has to throw for 300+ yards and have a perfect QB rating in EVERY game? Didn't you get the memo? 1 1
Royale with Cheese Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicharito said: Sitting here thinking about when Trent Edwards got crushed in Arizona years back and how it basically ruined the kid. We all know Josh has the skill set to be the leader of this team . I just hope this hit doesn’t scare the game out of him like it did to Trent. Trent Edwards stat line on his first game back after the concussion: 25-30; 260 yards, 1 TD pass and a QB rating of 114.
Wayne Cubed Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Trent Edwards stat line on his first game back after the concussion: 25-30; 260 yards, 1 TD pass and a QB rating of 114. Literally his best game as a Bills QB.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Again, he had his best game as a Bill AFTER he came back. It's simply not true no matter how much you want to repeat it. If he was never comfortable in the pocket how could he possibly have his best game ever as a Bill? Better than ANY game he had before the injury. It's a complete myth. He was still concussed and unable to feel fear? ? 1
Royale with Cheese Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: Literally his best game as a Bills QB. He was at one point, 23 of 25 in that game.
Wayne Cubed Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: He was at one point, 23 of 25 in that game. But, but he was 'gun shy' and 'couldn't throw the ball'
Matt_In_NH Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 IMO (and I know a lot don't agree) that is complete urban legend. Edwards arguably had his best game his first game back from that injury. Defenses figured out some things to do against him and Edwards had no answer. He was never destined for greatness and his failure would have occurred with our without that concussion. Look around the NFL, guys get concussions all the time, how many of them never return to the form they had before?
Big Gun Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I already know everything you wrote. How Brady did is irrelevant to the Allen question. If Allen's terrible play doesn't concern you, fine by me. Live in denial. So what's your answer then, keep complaining about? Allen isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Wayne Cubed Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He was at one point, 23 of 25 in that game. He was the NFL Player of the Week for that game...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said: Except his best game as a Bill came the game he came back from the concussion. Why does this keep getting repeated? He wasn't shell shocked, he got figured out. Sensationalism......he was viciously hit and never became a franchise qb so it HAD to have been the cause!
TwistofFate Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: He was the NFL Player of the Week for that game... Yet some how he simply was inexplicably "figured out" and unable to ever perform again moving on. PTS didn't hit him immediately.
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, pop gun said: So what's your answer then, keep complaining about? Allen isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Yeah I love complaining, how about you? What do you mean what is my answer? Have to wait and see if he develops, is that a mystery to you? Allen was always considering a project regardless. Like getting hurt last yer when he came back was much better in round 2. Assuming he take time off due to the concussion and watch.
Matt_In_NH Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: Brady is figured out, he still performs. Same with with any other Qb. It is measure/countermeasure. Some QB's are able to adapt when defenses take away things they do well and do something else equally well. Some QB's are more talented than others and have a comprehensive game that is harder to defend than a player than can only do a few things. Others can do some things well but not all things, they "get figured out" and ultimately fail, like Edwards. Edited October 1, 2019 by mattynh 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: I'm so tired of this "Trent was ruined by one hit" argument. He was never that good. No passion for the game. No fire. The perfect QB for a Jauron-led team. Josh is the anti-Trent. ...no resemblance then?.........
row_33 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Trent Edwards stat line on his first game back after the concussion: 25-30; 260 yards, 1 TD pass and a QB rating of 114. don't care about that game against the tanking fish and the rest of his career? he was not the same after getting Adrianed 1
njbuff Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: don't care about that game against the tanking fish and the rest of his career? he was not the same after getting Adrianed Tanking fish?
Big Turk Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Except it's not. Also, for what it's worth, Edwards really never looked to have the killer instinct Josh possesses. What gave that away? Him running out of bounds at the opponents 40 yard line on 4th down instead of trying to throw it up for grabs downfield in a one score game late in the 4th quarter? Can't take a chance of turning the ball over... Edited October 1, 2019 by matter2003
SoTier Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 4 hours ago, njbuff said: McCoy's running style and decline is what got him released. Nothing else to see here. A healthy Singletary is critical to this being a run-heavy offense (Captain Obvious here). With that said, if they have all 3 backs healthy, they have more than enough to be a very strong run team. Plus this strategy will be much more effective for a team that is transitioning a whole new starting OL. McCoy has 214 yards on 40 carries (5.4 avg), 12 carries for first downs, and 2 TDs. He's also caught 9 passes out of 11 targets for 71 yards (7.9 avg) for 3 first downs and 1 TD. He has 0 fumbles. That projects to be about 850 yards on the ground plus another 280 yards via passing, and he's not even the feature back on a passing team. I'm not a fan of playing money ball, especially on the offensive side. You can't have too much talent on offense in the modern NFL in order to be successful as the Pats, Chiefs, Saints, Rams, and Eagles have repeatedly demonstrated. Surrounding a top QB prospect/veteran with second stringers and JAGs hasn't proven to be a particularly successful formula for building consistent playoff contenders in this century.
njbuff Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, SoTier said: McCoy has 214 yards on 40 carries (5.4 avg), 12 carries for first downs, and 2 TDs. He's also caught 9 passes out of 11 targets for 71 yards (7.9 avg) for 3 first downs and 1 TD. He has 0 fumbles. That projects to be about 850 yards on the ground plus another 280 yards via passing, and he's not even the feature back on a passing team. I'm not a fan of playing money ball, especially on the offensive side. You can't have too much talent on offense in the modern NFL in order to be successful as the Pats, Chiefs, Saints, Rams, and Eagles have repeatedly demonstrated. Surrounding a top QB prospect/veteran with second stringers and JAGs hasn't proven to be a particularly successful formula for building consistent playoff contenders in this century. McCoy wasn't a fit here with his running style. That's why he is gone. Gore and Singletary attack the LOS much better than Shady ever will. Shady is gone and in KC now, so no need to bring him up cause he ain't coming back to this team.
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