Fixxxer Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Did you guys notice the holding penalty on Dawkins? Proposterous
Trogdor Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, BillsInWilmingtonNC said: I know the penalty goes both ways for dropping your head, but it seems like a stretch to say Allen lowers his head, any slight drop in his head is 100% due to the fact he is trying to hold onto the ball in preparation for the big hit he is about to take. He definitely lowers his head and more runs into the defenders helmet, but I think the defender intended to hit him high anyway. He never lowered his pad level and that added with Allen going down was bad. I'm not full tin foil like a lot of people right now because I see DBs do this all the time. Look at the hits on WRs after a missed pass and you will see very similar style hits. DBs generally have the worst tackling technique of any position group. I don't know that anyone fears JA enough to do "sweep the leg" move, especially in this game where he was a turnover machine. 1
50yrpatsfan Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Pats fan here. When I saw it on live TV and on replays, I thought the hit was questionable. But I think this angle from the opposite side will change your minds completely: https://t.co/0rc5YkIDs1 Allen actually is the one who turns toward Jones and lowers his head. It's surprising that Allen was the one injured and not Jones. There shouldn't even have been a penalty, let alone an ejection. Jones gives away 50 lbs to Allen. Allen didn't slide and was truly a RB at that point. It was 3rd down, and Allen was going to fall forward for a 1st down if Jones didn't engage him. The other tackler Harmon hadn't really started to bring him down at the moment Allen & Jones collided. Nobody wanted to see the QB hurt, but Jones did nothing wrong here. 1 1
bmur66 Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, nucci said: Similar hit Thursday night...Barnett on Williams...taken off on stretcher and he wasn't ejected. I don't think the league knows what they are doing....Hyde was right though....if one of our guys hit Brady like that..... Very true
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) @HOUSE the tin foil hat not big enough ??? did the bastard lower his head and make head to head contact? hell yes Was he ordered to take him out Greggga Williams style ?? comeonman!! Edited September 30, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost
Doc Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Yes. These dirty ***** always look to take out a Bills player who is a key or is playing well. Was not surprised at all it happened yesterday. I just wish they'd retaliate but they know they'll be ejected. Just another reason I've never respected them. 1
TroutDog Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: That makes no sense. Now if Allen had been in the pocket and took the hit and not 7 yards downfield running and trying get the first down I could see your point. This is Allen acting like Cam Newton and getting lit up. (This time illegally) Allen needs to learn to slide to protect himself otherwise he will have a short career. (Like Newton. Who I like as a QB) Doesn’t make sense? Watch the replay. All the talk is that Josh lowered his head. Simply not true: he was already being tackled. If you know Josh, you know he is going to lay it all on the line to move the chains/win the game. There was ZERO need for that hit and if you can’t see that then I’m not sure why you’re even here. Edited September 30, 2019 by TroutDog 1
papazoid Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 text book targeting defender had a chance to pull up....totally deliberate hit to head 1
SwampD Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, 50yrpatsfan said: Pats fan here. When I saw it on live TV and on replays, I thought the hit was questionable. But I think this angle from the opposite side will change your minds completely: https://t.co/0rc5YkIDs1 Allen actually is the one who turns toward Jones and lowers his head. It's surprising that Allen was the one injured and not Jones. There shouldn't even have been a penalty, let alone an ejection. Jones gives away 50 lbs to Allen. Allen didn't slide and was truly a RB at that point. It was 3rd down, and Allen was going to fall forward for a 1st down if Jones didn't engage him. The other tackler Harmon hadn't really started to bring him down at the moment Allen & Jones collided. Nobody wanted to see the QB hurt, but Jones did nothing wrong here. Good lord. Jones is looking right at him and targets his head. He knew exactly what he was doing. Typical Patriot ballwashing. 2
Manther Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I see that the NFL has blocked that video ... Something to hide Goodell ? Really? Where did he block it?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I see that the NFL has blocked that video ... Something to hide Goodell ? say what? I watched it. You just have to go to youtube
Manther Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, 50yrpatsfan said: Pats fan here. When I saw it on live TV and on replays, I thought the hit was questionable. But I think this angle from the opposite side will change your minds completely: https://t.co/0rc5YkIDs1 Allen actually is the one who turns toward Jones and lowers his head. It's surprising that Allen was the one injured and not Jones. There shouldn't even have been a penalty, let alone an ejection. Jones gives away 50 lbs to Allen. Allen didn't slide and was truly a RB at that point. It was 3rd down, and Allen was going to fall forward for a 1st down if Jones didn't engage him. The other tackler Harmon hadn't really started to bring him down at the moment Allen & Jones collided. Nobody wanted to see the QB hurt, but Jones did nothing wrong here. Why are you here on this board? Why do you feel you need to defend the Pats**? Let me ask you this question honestly........... Do you feel the Pats** have cheated in the past? Or many times in the past?
50yrpatsfan Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SwampD said: Good lord. Jones is looking right at him and targets his head. He knew exactly what he was doing. Typical Patriot ballwashing. Watch the video objectively, like it was 2 other teams playing. Allen aims toward Jones and lowers his head. Jones braces for a hit. The crown of Allen's helmet strikes the side of Jones' helmet. It's very clear. https://t.co/0rc5YkIDs1 Edited September 30, 2019 by 50yrpatsfan 1
BillsFan4 Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 This is the first time I’ve seen this angle of the hit. I still see him dropping his helmet slightly, but you can also see Allen drop his head slightly too.
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Bojo should be sent on the field next time for D and after the play the D should rip Brady's helmet off and have Bojo punt his head off and then punt him in the balls just for added measure... Maybe we can defend that like it wasn't intentional. Also it'll get rid of Bojo, two birds with one stone!
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 This has happened to Cam Newton like 20 times in his career. It’s why running should never be a franchise qb’s best skill. Look at Newton now. Allen simply needs to become a better pocket passer. I love his guts and toughness but he will not last doing this.
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, 50yrpatsfan said: Watch the video objectively, like it was 2 other teams playing. Allen aims toward Jones and lowers his head. Jones braces for a hit. The crown of Allen's helmet strikes the side of Jones' helmet. It's very clear. https://t.co/0rc5YkIDs1 Brady's dild0s need some polishing ya know...
50yrpatsfan Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: This is the first time I’ve seen this angle of the hit. I still see him dropping his helmet slightly, but you can also see Allen drop his head slightly too. Allen not only drops his head but angles his body toward Jones, taking him on directly. The crown of his helmet strikes the side of Jones'. 1 1
NoSaint Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Dopey said: He purposely hit Josh hard, but I don't think he had had it in his mind to take Josh out. Football is still a violent game. Hes also a 5’8 180lbs guy the just stopped a 240lbs guy with momentum. While the flex aged poorly I think it was very possibly just on the high of a big hit and had no idea josh wasn’t popping back up.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Bojo should be sent on the field next time for D and after the play the D should rip Brady's helmet off and have Bojo punt his head off and then punt him in the balls just for added measure... Maybe we can defend that like it wasn't intentional. Also it'll get rid of Bojo, two birds with one stone! So... was I wrong about the Tin Foil Hat reference? ? ? ? Angle 1. It looks Targeted Angle 2. It looks like Josh Lowered his head and the 2 helmets met.
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