Bangarang Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Maybe not. But the alternative was Kyle "I Give Up" Orton. It was easier watching us suck with Orton than EJ.
BringBackOrton Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 33 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Wrongly. EJ NEVER should have been benched at that stage. HAHAHAHA NO OMG NO
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: It was easier watching us suck with Orton than EJ. Was it though? 1
oldmanfan Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Josh came out amped up too much. Kind of like the season opener. When he chilled out he went through his progressions well, went to the open receiver and looked just fine. He needs to see that. Daboll and Dorsey need to help him see it. 1
The Wiz Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Anyone that has watched Allen and EJ and thinks they are similar players based on stats doesn't know their ass from their elbow. And I both supported EJ to death and hated the Allen pick in the draft. 2
dayman Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: EJ absolutely sucked and it was painfully obvious. He wasn’t going to magically become what people hoped he would be simply because he was given more time. As hard as I am now on Josh this is very true...Josh is in no way sucking as obviously and clearly permanently as EJ did. EJ obviously would never be able to play. Josh just clearly can't play right now...unclear as to the future (although trending poorly). 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, The Wiz said: Anyone that has watched Allen and EJ and thinks they are similar players based on stats doesn't know their ass from their elbow. That's tim graham for you.
Bangarang Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Was it though? yes because EJ was that bad
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 WTH does EJ Manuel have to do with any of this? I mean really, it's just filler nonsense by writers.
CLTbills Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 No. Just.... no. he threw 3 picks against what is being billed as the best defense since the ‘85 Bears. You know who else looked terrible against them? Ben Freaking Roethlisberger.
Laughing Coffin Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 I don't even feel like BB did anything to make Josh Allen look bad, it was Josh Allen making Josh Allen look bad. And that is the concerning part. 3
dayman Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, CLTbills said: No. Just.... no. he threw 3 picks against what is being billed as the best defense since the ‘85 Bears. You know who else looked terrible against them? Ben Freaking Roethlisberger. The Pats defense as the greatest defense is just utter and complete garbage. Stop with it. They've played total garbage offenses...including us. Our defense is better. 1
Phil The Thrill Posted October 1, 2019 Author Posted October 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, CLTbills said: No. Just.... no. he threw 3 picks against what is being billed as the best defense since the ‘85 Bears. You know who else looked terrible against them? Ben Freaking Roethlisberger. You are correct - I never compared EJ to Allen and I never thought Barkley should be played over Allen. But to be fair....I don’t think anyone is hailing the NE defense as being THAT good. That’s a bit of an exaggeration
PromoTheRobot Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: They can't hit you in practice and game speed and practice speed is vastly different. So I don't think practice effectively recreates game conditions in order to help with his decision making. Also Josh can still as a starter practice under those conditions. The film is already out on him and he isn’t going to show a dramatic improvement in practice due to the conditions not being similar enough to an actual game. If this was footwork or some other aspect of his game that he needs tremendous work on then I would understand the idea that he might be better served to be benched for a game. But I don’t see decision making improving in a significant way without getting live games in. I also don’t buy this idea that Barkley somehow gives the team a better chance to win. Josh has his issues but Barkley is a limited QB in his own right and the team spending snaps on Barkley is kind of wasting starting snaps that could simply go to Josh. I honestly think that Josh gives the team as good if not a better chance to win. Josh adds a dynamic with his legs and his power arm that Barkley simply doesn’t. Yes Allen might make some mistakes that Barkley might not but I would rather see what I have in Josh and take his positives than to just start Barkely for no other reason than to satisfy fans frustrations over one game. You don't need to hit Allen to teach him how to respond to situations.
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 I was never sold on Allen (being honest, I wanted Rosen). I really like how he's improved his accuracy on short throws this season (prior to the start of the Patriots game). I don't like how he keeps making the same mistakes over and over. How many times has he gotten sacked (or taken intentional grounding penalty) to knock us out of FG range this season? How many times has he thrown off his back foot? How many "hero ball" plays have blown up in his face? He needs to cut down on the mistakes to earn my faith. 2
london_bills Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said: I don't even feel like BB did anything to make Josh Allen look bad, it was Josh Allen making Josh Allen look bad. And that is the concerning part. Well put.
Phil The Thrill Posted October 1, 2019 Author Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said: I don't even feel like BB did anything to make Josh Allen look bad, it was Josh Allen making Josh Allen look bad. And that is the concerning part. No he did. Rather than run his ends of upfield , he kept Allen in the pocket. Same strategy he has done against every mobile QB - including Flutie in 1999. He also used spies and challenged Allen to beat them deep - which he was unable to do
Teddy KGB Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, dayman said: The Pats defense as the greatest defense is just utter and complete garbage. Stop with it. They've played total garbage offenses...including us. Our defense is better. Stop making things up Makes you look foolish. Pats defense is elite this season. Deal in facts
Phil The Thrill Posted October 1, 2019 Author Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I was never sold on Allen (being honest, I wanted Rosen). I really like how he's improved his accuracy on short throws this season (prior to the start of the Patriots game). I don't like how he keeps making the same mistakes over and over. How many times has he gotten sacked (or taken intentional grounding penalty) to knock us out of FG range this season? How many times has he thrown off his back foot? How many "hero ball" plays have blown up in his face? He needs to cut down on the mistakes to earn my faith. Good take. I feel the same way. I’m still keeping an open mind on Allen but I need to see more Just now, Teddy KGB said: Stop making things up Makes you look foolish. Pats defense is elite this season. Deal in facts an elite defense after 4 games....um ok 1
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