The Red King Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Success said: It’s what he has done until now. Why doubt it would have happened today? Pats fans online are defending that hit the way they did Gronk on Tre. Even McCourtey was downplaying it. We were all denied the proper ending to that game. Today WAS the changing of the guard. Now, the world will have to wait for the rematch to realize it. Until the Pats do it again, because they sure as hell got away with it cleanly today.
LABILLBACKER Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dlonce said: Concussion protocol takes quite some time. If there’s even a hint of a problem you will never see a return. Cheap shot that never seems to happen to Brady. Why? Because Brady dumps the ball off at the closet hint of pressure. My issue is with the zebras, that interception where D back lost the ball while our defender touched while out of bounds should have been incomplete. That clown In NY is biased. Biased.....you're joking right?....this league has been ball washing the Patriots since the tuck....Brady is the Golden Goose to the NFL....they'll always get more calls than the rest of the league. Theres nothing we can do about it and it will never change. The good news is it will all dry up once Marsha calls it. Edited September 30, 2019 by LABILLBACKER
BananaB Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said: Hard doing this on an iPhone but will update those stats. I don’t care to be honest. Every QB is in a different situation so I try not to compare to many stats. Allen is making mistakes but I’m 3 out of 4 games this year we seen an improved passer in my opinion. He had a rough one today against a great D, i’m sure it won’t be his last. We’re 3-1 with 12 games left and our only loss came against the best team in the league, and it was definitely winnable. Can’t predict what would of happened if Allen didn’t get knocked out but i’m sure no one would be saying anything about those picks if he won the game.
Freddie's Dead Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 The Cheats knew it, and deliberately targeted him to get him out of the game. They were abetted by the NFL's Al RiverMORon, saying the hit did not rise to ejection level, and the refs on the field, who called a phantom holding to make sure the Bills didn't come back all the way. The NFL fixed this one for the Cheats, and I'm sick and tired of their bull####. 1 1
Dr.Sack Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: I don’t care to be honest. Every QB is in a different situation so I try not to compare to many stats. Allen is making mistakes but I’m 3 out of 4 games this year we seen an improved passer in my opinion. He had a rough one today against a great D, i’m sure it won’t be his last. We’re 3-1 with 12 games left and our only loss came against the best team in the league, and it was definitely winnable. Can’t predict what would of happened if Allen didn’t get knocked out but i’m sure no one would be saying anything about those picks if he won the game. Allen has a long way to go to show he’s a franchise QB. Anyone can acknowledge that his INTs are a problem.
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 Yeah, he definitely showed that today. ?♂️
ExWNYer Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 As Bills fans, we'd all like to believe that had Allen been in the game, he would have marched the team into the end zone for the Cinderella ending. The sad reality is that we didn't get the chance to witness that possibility and we'll never know.
Mark Vader Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: How did they defend the Gronk hit on Tre? That's insane? They defended it by saying Tre deserved it because he was holding on the play. Cheaters fans are the scum of the Earth. 1
bbb Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 I don't remember ever seeing somebody who seemed to be knocked out cold run off the field with his eyes looking totally normal.............And, then the way he ran into the tunnel, he looked 100%
TwistofFate Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, thunderingsquid said: https://giphy.com/gifs/3sLw1HqpVv3z2 1
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Allen really needs to improve those mental mistakes and unforced errors. He needs to protect the football. For comparative sake Allen has thrown picks on 18 of his 451 career attempts. Kaepernick threw 30 on 1692 career attempts. If Allen keeps up this pick rate he will have 68 picks at 1692 attempts. Brady has thrown 172 picks on 9,520 attempts. If Allen would reached 9,520 attempts at his rate he’d have 380 picks at Brady’s attempts. Aaron Rodgers is even more amazing, 81 picks on 5,638 attempts, Allen would be at 225 picks. The boneheaded interceptions make coaches stay up at night and let down the defense. They are unforced errors and I believe McDermott will only tolerate these horrible decisions for so long. EJ Manuel- First 15 games attempts- 437 completions- 256 -58.4% 16TD 12Int 2810 passing yards 6.4 YPA Josh Allen- First 16 games attempts- 451 completions- 248 -55% 13TD 18Int 2977 passing yds 6.6 YPA They invested a great deal of assets into Josh, and it’s different ownership/regime, so I get why he’s going to be given a real chance to succeed unlike EJ ever was. However, I think it’s a legitimate question to ask, how long should he be given to develop while a super bowl caliber defense is held back by a developing quarterback? What happens if week 16 rolls around and we are still getting a bunch of “good josh/bad josh”? If he doesn’t start working out the kinks, is a 1st round QB back on the table?
yungmack Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 On a more positive note, there are a slew of good QBs coming out in the next draft.
Thurman#1 Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsBlue said: I know it and you know it, Josh Allen was about to take the game over. That's not knowing. It's called wishful thinking. It might have happened. Or it might not. But there's no particular reason to think he would have. What we do know is that after the TD, the Bills drives looked like this till Allen was knocked out of the game: 1st: (3rd quarter, 9:00) 6 plays, totaling -14 yards, PUNT 2nd: (3rd quarter, 5:27) 3 plays, totaling 9 yards, INTERCEPTION 3rd: (3rd quarter, 0:58) 12 plays, totaling 62 yards (however, Allen was injured on the fourth play, after making 27 yards, though the penalty on the hit on Allen added to that) So, from the TD to the injury, they had 13 plays totalling 22 yards. In those two-and-a-half drives, Allen went 2 for 5 for 22 yards and an interception. He did also scramble twice for seven yards each and had a sack for -11, so he totaled three yards on the scrambles and the sack. I don't see any evidence there that he'd cracked the code before he got injured.
Thurman#1 Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: EJ Manuel- First 15 games attempts- 437 completions- 256 -58.4% 16TD 12Int 2810 passing yards 6.4 YPA Josh Allen- First 16 games attempts- 451 completions- 248 -55% 13TD 18Int 2977 passing yds 6.6 YPA They invested a great deal of assets into Josh, and it’s different ownership/regime, so I get why he’s going to be given a real chance to succeed unlike EJ ever was. However, I think it’s a legitimate question to ask, how long should he be given to develop while a super bowl caliber defense is held back by a developing quarterback? What happens if week 16 rolls around and we are still getting a bunch of “good josh/bad josh”? If he doesn’t start working out the kinks, is a 1st round QB back on the table? It's maybe a legitimate question, but the answer, unless he absolutely falls apart, is likely to be that he gets three or four years to grow and improve. Particularly as we're seeing improvement. Inconsistency and mental mistakes are not fatal flaws for 2nd year guys. By the way, I like your name. But the problem with EJ was that his best work was in his first year. Things went downhill after that. In contrast, Josh has showed improvement. Edited September 30, 2019 by Thurman#1
ChasBB Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 SLIDE - no reason for Allen to take that hit in the first place - live for another down.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, BillsBlue said: What a tough way to lose the game!!!! Roast me, call me crazy but I've seen it in every 4th q comeback he's had all of a sudden he hits a groove and starts making plays left and right. It started to happen at the last bit of play before the 2nd q ended, Allen figured out their defense and started going to work. He came out in the third quarter and put in work and by the end of the third quarter it was evident he was putting the team on his back and willing another 4th q comeback. Hell I'd bet anything that he would've gotten into the endzone on 1 of the 3 or 4 chances Barkley had when he ran out of downs. At the end of the day New England knew they had to knock Allen out of the game once he got rolling. In summation- If Allen wasn't cheap shotted we win that game. Does he need to change his decisions and not throw off his back foot while being hit??? Yes, is he as clutch as it gets when the game is on the line??? Absolutely Ps- Gore should've gotten more touches, Knox needs to be fed he has hands of glue, bring up the Duke and bench Zay(ps I was a big Zay supporter in the past). i definitely didn't feel confident when Barkley came in, who is a good game manager but not going to give you that clutch play you need from the QB position, which Allen would have.
formerlyofCtown Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, BillsBlue said: I also was really hoping he came back out for the last couple minutes honestly he seemed fine and not punch drunk in the least but you gotta protect this kids melon imo he's too important we need him for the Long haul better safe than sorry They may be protecting him from the media.
formerlyofCtown Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: EJ Manuel- First 15 games attempts- 437 completions- 256 -58.4% 16TD 12Int 2810 passing yards 6.4 YPA Josh Allen- First 16 games attempts- 451 completions- 248 -55% 13TD 18Int 2977 passing yds 6.6 YPA They invested a great deal of assets into Josh, and it’s different ownership/regime, so I get why he’s going to be given a real chance to succeed unlike EJ ever was. However, I think it’s a legitimate question to ask, how long should he be given to develop while a super bowl caliber defense is held back by a developing quarterback? What happens if week 16 rolls around and we are still getting a bunch of “good josh/bad josh”? If he doesn’t start working out the kinks, is a 1st round QB back on the table? How about we talk about where he is now and you stop spinning. Who is this? 575 completions-326-56% 26TDs 28Ints 3739 passing yards 6.5 Y/A
HOUSE Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 The helmet to helmet hit changed the outcome. Off setting penalties were the killer. Had it been a Buffalo first down, I believe the Bills win. You are going to hear about this all week long. 1
thenorthremembers Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, dlonce said: Concussion protocol takes quite some time. If there’s even a hint of a problem you will never see a return. Cheap shot that never seems to happen to Brady. Why? Because Brady dumps the ball off at the closet hint of pressure. My issue is with the zebras, that interception where D back lost the ball while our defender touched while out of bounds should have been incomplete. That clown In NY is biased. I am getting mighty sick of his "dumpoffs" into the dirt with no wideout near the ball.
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