Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: 3 picks= failure. Don't get me wrong I think he will be just fine but he played poorly today. And tow more fumbles, one lost. I think he will get better but how many games will it take? 5? 10? 15? At what point do you know a guy won;t get better? I have no idea. I suspect McD doesn't either.
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 He turns the ball over way too much. It starting to be a repetitive issue 7
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, corta765 said: But he didn’t. Sorry I like Josh but for the season he is 3 TDs to 6 INTs plus 3 lost fumbles. After two games where the error was pointing up he has now had two games where the error went decidedly down. The defense will not be great forever and I want my QB to be better straight up Convenient you're not including his 3 rush TDs as well. But hey, whatever. You do you. 2
billsfan_34 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 I am an Allen fan- but agree with you. Bad mechanics, holding the ball too long 3 picks just a step back today. 2
corta765 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. Terrible performance. It’ll get better Right. He’s had two good games (Jets Giants) one average (Bengals) and one bad which was today which makes you ask some hard questions. This isn’t a panic button he has started just 16 games as much as a well I like what you’ve shown but I need better for it to work long term.
Ramza86 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 100% he failed today. You can see the fear and the poor decision making from the get go. Way too much respect for the Pats. Lets hope he learns to not get in his own head like that against stronger opponents 1
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, corta765 said: But he didn’t. Sorry I like Josh but for the season he is 3 TDs to 6 INTs plus 3 lost fumbles. After two games where the error was pointing up he has now had two games where the error went decidedly down. The defense will not be great forever and I want my QB to be better straight up how many Running TDS. I mean we want to count all his turnovers shouldn’t we count all his TDs 2
NewEra Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, corta765 said: Right. He’s had two good games (Jets Giants) one average (Bengals) and one bad which was today which makes you ask some hard questions. This isn’t a panic button he has started just 16 games as much as a well I like what you’ve shown but I need better for it to work long term. It will be better. He played against a championship defense. You know this 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: how many Running TDS. I mean we want to count all his turnovers shouldn’t we count all his TDs Can't do that, skews the narrative.
corta765 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: I am an Allen fan- but agree with you. Bad mechanics, holding the ball too long 3 picks just a step back today. Right step back happens you hope it’s just a step and he goes forward from here. I would like a stretch with less turnovers it’s getting concerning.
Nuncha Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Young QB with still less than a full season under his belt. He is going to have bad moments. What concerns me are the bad decisions he is making - taking sacks that knock you out of FG range, and throwing those awful off balance interceptions as he rolls out. Just hope he learns from this sooner rather than later...
SirAndrew Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: And tow more fumbles, one lost. I think he will get better but how many games will it take? 5? 10? 15? At what point do you know a guy won;t get better? I have no idea. I suspect McD doesn't either. If Allen keeps making mistakes at this rate all season I’ll be worried. My hope after the 3-0 start was for Allen to keep learning how to reduce mistakes while the defense carried the team to victories this year. I’ll be worried if we start losing games, and Allen keeps making bad decisions with no sign of improvement once the offseason arrives.
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: 100% he failed today. You can see the fear and the poor decision making from the get go. Way too much respect for the Pats. Lets hope he learns to not get in his own head like that against stronger opponents On a Side not BB has been doing this for years to young QBs. Ala Dick Lambeau Edited September 29, 2019 by MAJBobby
Stallions Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) I don't think the offensive game plan helped Allen's play. Why not quick slants, out-patterns or draws?? Maybe the plan was to show off Josh's arm and stretch the defense but obviously that failed. That nice, quick play drive to start the 3rd quarter was never brought back again? Edited September 29, 2019 by Stallions 1
Rc2catch Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 They lost because of Allen today plain and simple. Rather he finished the game or not he made some completely meatheaded plays. I haven’t given up on him yet but he’s played enough to start making these adjustments. His need for the big throw and homerun VS the safer shorter route is maddening as a fan. I hope he’s ok, and I absolutely want him starting against another pretty nasty defense in Tennessee. If he can’t learn from his mistakes and get better then at least we’ll know by seasons end if he’s franchise material or not. He needs to play every possible down though this season. 1
billsfan_34 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, corta765 said: Right step back happens you hope it’s just a step and he goes forward from here. I would like a stretch with less turnovers it’s getting concerning. Amen- now take 2 steps forward.
corta765 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: how many Running TDS. I mean we want to count all his turnovers shouldn’t we count all his TDs Sure 6 TDs total against 9 turnovers. I don’t want my QB committing 36 turnovers it’s not sustainable. He needs to do better I believe he can but today was a step back 1
thebandit27 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Yep, he didn't get it done. News flash: great defenses make even good QBs look bad. It happened to Brady today. Both offenses scored a total of 1 TD and 1 FG each. He still had the team in the game when he left. He'll learn from it, and we'll see how he responds. 3 3
Franco_92 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Agreed. He failed. Agreed with others, that it's one game. He will pass other tests in the future. And fail some more. This can be a 10-11 win team this season, let's hope Allen gets healthy fast and keeps learning. 1
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 He didn't fail. But he has to get better stop being hero ball all of the time. Sometimes gotta take what it gives him.
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