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The Pats at home for the division lead and Allen played his worst game of the season and worst since he went out with injury last year.

 

This was an opportunity for a statement and instead we got the worst parts of Allen’s game which was trying for big plays which resulted in INTs and pocket presence failure resulting in loss of points.

 

This isn’t the end of the world either. Allen deserves credit for leading the team to 3 wins and you can certainly see his improvement as a QB. But after saying he was done with hero ball, he instead forced 3 different balls for INTs which were crucial to the loss. On the positive his second half play was better and you have to remember NE is really good so it wasn’t like it was against a bunch of scrubs.

 

But this was his first real chance against a great team and he flopped big time. Up until today he was playing at a level that was very workable with no real signs to say his trajectory was down. But this was a bad day which opened some concerns about his long term viability. While I am not a big stat guy he has 3 TDs thrown against 6 INTs plus a bunch of fumbles too. The goal with drafting Allen was getting a guy who can do enough to beat the top dogs like NE and today at argument could’ve been made that the Bills were better off with Barkley just because he would’ve given less negative plays. The second half of the year will have more real opponents like BAL, NE, and DAL. The Bills defense is good enough to make a real run with and the offense has some good weapons like Beasley Brown and possibly Knox who is emerging a bit. Allen failed today but he has a good test to comeback next week and more opportunities to show he can move to that next level.

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Just now, Dafan said:

Can't really say he failed....he didn't finish the game.  He stays in and I think Bills score the go ahead TD.

3 picks= failure. Don't get me wrong I think he will be just fine but he played poorly today.

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Honestly, Allen hasn’t played any good complete games of four quarters this season. That becomes an issue when you face the Pats. We were just able to escape with wins against lesser teams. 

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2 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said:

3 picks= failure

3 TD’s to 6 picks on the season isn’t so great either. I’m certainly not giving up on Allen. I’ve been in his corner all season, and the future is bright. We just need to see improvement. We also don’t need him to miss any substantial amount of time this season.   

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Just now, White Linen said:

It's hard when he has to play against our own special teams.  They failed the test yet again.

 

4 Turnovers plus a sack that took them out of FG range. He was a big part of the points NE got and the lack of scoring we had. For right now it’s OK but it forces some not fun questions about his play which is very up and down

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2 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said:

3 picks= failure

Jim Kelly once threw 3 pick on the 1st 3 possessions of the game and the Bills won the game.   We'll never know what Josh would have done at the end of the game because he was taken out with a dirty hit.

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Can’t argue with that. However I would have loved to see the result of the game without the Cheap Shot that removes him. 

I agree, the fourth quarter has been his thing all season. No one in their right mind wanted to see Barkley on the field for a potential game winning drive. 

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I think we'll gel as an offense as the season progresses. It's a whole new crew, except for Josh, Dion and Zay. We'll be fine if we cut down on turnovers.

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Pats are the gold standard in the NFL. Not going to overreact that they confused JA. JA played bad but WR’s got little separation, pass blocking struggled and didn’t understand why Daboll kept thinking the deep ball was there. Btw got zero from Jay Jones and the punt block was inexcusable. You have to recognize the gunners weren’t covered!

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

And if he'd remained in and taken the lead would this post have happened?

 

No.

 

People need to take a step back and think for a change.

 

 

But he didn’t. Sorry I like Josh but for the season he is 3 TDs to 6 INTs plus 3 lost fumbles. After two games where the error was pointing up he has now had two games where the error went decidedly down. The defense will not be great forever and I want my QB to be better straight up 

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1 minute ago, corta765 said:

 

4 Turnovers plus a sack that took them out of FG range. He was a big part of the points NE got and the lack of scoring we had. For right now it’s OK but it forces some not fun questions about his play which is very up and down

 

He's certainly better than our special teams.  They stink.

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1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

And if he'd remained in and taken the lead would this post have happened?

 

No.

 

People need to take a step back and think for a change.

 

This post wouldn’t have happened, but Allen does need to tone down the reckless play regardless. If not for the reckless play (poor decision making) he wouldn’t have been knocked out of the game. 

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