34-78-83 Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, london_bills said: They make a huge difference as to taking control of a game. Such momentum shifters It was one errant pass in the short to medium range. My point was that all the Qb's do this. Even Rodgers and the like. Josh needs to work on the deep ball to round out his game. He has done quite well in the short to medium areas.
Reed83HOF Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, klos63 said: No, I'm seriously concerned that he forces open receivers to make more difficult catches than necessary. Numerous times Brown was open and couldn't get any YAC because of an inaccurate pass. It's a concern at this point. I could understand him being late, as he's still young and learning to read defenses.It's his inaccuracy that still rears it's ugly head too often. YAC - what's that? 1
CincyBillsFan Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, london_bills said: Not really although the pass seemed to take ages to come down He is late. End zone to Knox a split second earlier is a TD. Here's where having an expert watch that particular play would really help. First off Allen was not widely inaccurate there as he got the ball exactly where it needed to be but as you say appeared to be off by a "split second". I can live with that in a 2nd year QB. But what I would be curious about is at tomorrows film session at One Bills Drive will anyone say that Knox should have adjusted ever so slightly and stepped to the ball? I mean if he does it blocks the DB from knocking the ball away and it's a either a TD catch or PI in the end zone as the DB would have had to run through Knox to get to the ball. Kind of like that first Cleveland TD where the coverage was good but the WR made a nice adjustment to the ball.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 I love Josh Allen. That said, can someone please do some digging and let us know what his completion percentage is on long balls this year? Attempts over 30 air yards? Has he even completed one? Feels like he is 0-27 if we say he averages three attempts per game.
ILBillsfan Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 7:44 AM, Mango said: I actually really like YAC as one of the metrics for how a QB is doing delivery the ball. I don’t think lack of YAC is a good defense for JA, rather an indictment. Current YAC leaders 1. Rodgers 2. Brady 3. Goff 4. Rivers 5. Mahomes The only players Josh beats are back ups, starters who have missed a bunch of time (ie Brees, Tannehill, etc) 21 Josh Allen BUF 23 QB 8 8 148 243 1653 82 892 6.0 3.7 9.1 761 5.1 16 6.6 43 17.7 95 29 24 27 6.4 22 Case Keenum WAS 31 QB 7 7 126 188 1343 68 716 5.7 3.8 6.9 627 5.0 9 4.8 30 16.0 49 31 19 2 7.0 23 Sam Darnold NYJ 22 QB 5 5 110 174 1077 53 541 4.9 3.1 7.9 536 4.9 7 4.0 34 19.5 66 22 14 1 3.0 24 Tom Brady NWE 42 QB 9 9 230 355 2536 121 1421 6.2 4.0 7.2 1115 4.8 15 4.2 61 17.2 122 37 14 0 25 Russell Wilson SEA 31 QB 9 9 200 293 2505 120 1537 7.7 5.2 9.4 968 4.8 11 3.8 54 18.4 138 37 30 23 7.4 26 Matthew Stafford DET 31 QB 8 8 187 291 2499 117 1609 8.6 5.5 10.6 890 4.8 10 3.4 59 20.3 87 23 17 10 5.6 27 Dak Prescott DAL 26 QB 8 8 190 273 2380 106 1460 7.7 5.3 9.6 920 4.8 19 7.0 30 11.0 68 19 28 10 7.6 28 Jameis Winston TAM 25 QB 8 8 182 307 2407 124 1586 8.7 5.2 10.5 821 4.5 15 4.9 61 19.9 114 41 27 17 5.6 29 Carson Wentz PHI 27 QB 9 9 190 303 2060 103 1223 6.4 4.0 8.6 837 4.4 18 5.9 52 17.2 95 33 17 14 7.3 30 Mitchell Trubisky CHI 25 QB 7 7 136 216 1217 61 652 4.8 3.0 7.4 565 4.2 14 6.5 37 17.1 68 27 12 5 5.8 3 Those are all QBs below Josh on YAC/Comp you have your sort wrong 1
transplantbillsfan Posted November 11, 2019 Author Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Never going anywhere with a QB this inaccurate....not in the modern NFL. Never. What an idiotic statement. But I get it, the loss stings, so we say stupid stuff. 4
zow2 Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 Jeremy on WGR made a good point. I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Most of Allen’s completions are to guys standing at a spot or throwing to a spot while the player is turning around. He’s rarely completes passes while the WR is on the run. The short slants to Beasley can be good, or the inaccurate pass to Brown would’ve been on the run. He rarely throws guys open. He’s basically doing what everyone said about Tyrod. He’s a taller Tyrod right now. 1 1
unclepete Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, zow2 said: Jeremy on WGR made a good point. I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Most of Allen’s completions are to guys standing at a spot or throwing to a spot while the player is turning around. He’s rarely completes passes while the WR is on the run. The short slants to Beasley can be good, or the inaccurate pass to Brown would’ve been on the run. He rarely throws guys open. He’s basically doing what everyone said about Tyrod. He’s a taller Tyrod right now. I said the same thing. He doesn't throw with anticipation. He throws to guys in open spots in the defense. It's why I've had Baker rated over him. Baker anticipates breaks. It's why he and Tyrod seem to hold the ball so long. They have to see the receiver be open opposed to throwing them open.
Nextmanup Posted November 11, 2019 Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: What an idiotic statement. But I get it, the loss stings, so we say stupid stuff. Nah, Allen just sucks. Eventually this will not be a debatable point. I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too. We all want the same thing! The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational. 1 1
transplantbillsfan Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 Helluva game by Allen and pretty much the whole offense and defense. Hey @Questionable... notice all the slants Allen hit today.
Luka Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Helluva game by Allen and pretty much the whole offense and defense. Hey @Questionable... notice all the slants Allen hit today. Gotta call'em to hit'em lol
JerseyBills Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 6:26 AM, zow2 said: Jeremy on WGR made a good point. I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Most of Allen’s completions are to guys standing at a spot or throwing to a spot while the player is turning around. He’s rarely completes passes while the WR is on the run. The short slants to Beasley can be good, or the inaccurate pass to Brown would’ve been on the run. He rarely throws guys open. He’s basically doing what everyone said about Tyrod. He’s a taller Tyrod right now. Tyrod wouldn't attempt 1/10tg of the throws Josh attempts on a weekly basis. This chemistry with Brown could turn into something special. They hooked up on some great throws and routes Taylor would NEVER attempt 4
Scott7975 Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 Tyrod wouldn't make half those throws. He did not use the middle of the field like that. 1 1
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 3:48 AM, Nextmanup said: Nah, Allen just sucks. Eventually this will not be a debatable point. I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too. We all want the same thing! The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational. ..................................
Hsker4life Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 LOL at people saying Josh is no better than Tyrod. Good stuff.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 6:48 AM, Nextmanup said: Nah, Allen just sucks. Eventually this will not be a debatable point. I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too. We all want the same thing! The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational. Boy, he sucked on ice today, huh? 2
transplantbillsfan Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 1:48 AM, Nextmanup said: Nah, Allen just sucks. Eventually this will not be a debatable point. I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too. We all want the same thing! The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational. Yikes!!! Didn't realize this was the very last post before today's game.
teef Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 6:48 AM, Nextmanup said: Nah, Allen just sucks. Eventually this will not be a debatable point. I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too. We all want the same thing! The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational. Outstanding. Just outstanding.
zow2 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 The recipe across the NFL for a W is solid rushing numbers, NO turnovers and a solid passing game 220+ yds. Enough to keep the chains moving. The 300 yarders through the air often don’t win, they’re playing catch up. But it’s nice to have the ability in your back pocket. I think that’s why so many people harp on it. They Just want to see Josh show the ability to do it. But today isn’t the day to give a crap about that. Josh played very well and nobody should complain. personally when I look at stats for Lamar Jackson, Allen and a few others I count the rushing yardage as part of their overall package. Allen accounted for over 300 yards of offense today. That’s a day! 2
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