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1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

Because you just saw Josh Allen's ceiling and you are realizing it's high enough.


Wanna back into a wildcard game and then lose it?  He can do that for you.


Want more?  We need another QB.

 

 

 

Disagree, Look at Kelly's first couple of years. Or for that matter look at the goat today. Not as bad but he sucked.

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Just now, LeGOATski said:

That's what I'm struggling to understand. Why is contact needed when the action is obviously intentional and takes the defender out of the play illegally

Contact or not, the intention should be the foul. Lacosse knew he got away with one too by the look on his face after 

Posted
5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Josh Allen took 6 points off the board twice being sacked in FG range on plays where he held it too long. That cannot happen.

 

And the throwing it into double coverage was an issue as was, for a third time this season, his demeanour when things start to go wrong. For me he unravels mentally and that is worrying. I don't mind a guy playing like Brett Favre but you gotta have his ability to dust yourself down, clear your head and go again and with Allen mistakes linger. 

 

It wasn't all on Josh. The ST miscues were plentiful - most obviously the blocked punt - and Barkley had a couple of nice throws but some mistakes too.

 

And the Pats D is good. It is. It is really good. I was the one saying all week it is a game where I am not fearful of Brady but of their defense. 

 

However, Josh was dreadful today. And it is okay to say that. It is the truth. He made the costly mistakes and he didn't make enough plays. I am not calling for him to be benched or anything like that and if he starts next week we have a better chance in Tennessee than if Barkley plays, without question, but people who try to downplay the extent to which Josh Allen cost the Bills that game do themselves a disservice. He was the main contributory factor. 

 

He has to get rid of those games from his repertoire. 

 

The Bills defense is without doubt a top 5 unit. It might be the best in the NFL. 

 

 

He was bad no doubt. My main annoyance is with the lunatics in the game thread saying he should be benched etc. 

 

I do think he's actually getting a bit pissed that none of his deep throws are connecting. That's the thing he loves to do, it's what he's known for, and I think the more that fall incomplete or get INTed, the more agitated he gets, so he ends up trying to force them where they just don't exist. That's also why he held the ball too long on those two sacks that cost us FGs

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea. I thought it was a pick too and I think they were right to throw the flag but on the replay it is clear he doesn't actually make contact... more by luck than judgment, but there has to be contact for a pick. 

If an O lineman sticks his leg out it's a trip no doubt.  That close to the line of scrimmage why is it not tripping for a TE? Even without contact it was clear he stuck his leg out to trip him.

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2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I don’t expect you to understand, but I’m saving warnings, suspensions & Bannings by forcing crybabies to cool off 1st. 

Carry on.

You're baiting them, though, by calling them a derogatory name. 

 

The intention of the thread is fine, but the execution is not in line with how a moderator should act.

 

IMO

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Lee Smith sucked the first time we had him and he still sucks today.  4 out of 6 penalties at one point on him.  Get him off the field.

 

Zay Jones is terrible as well.  Complete lack of effort.  Never makes plays.  There is no way you can tell me he is a better WR than Duke.  None.  Get him off the team.

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18 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

1st loss, this crap is expected. Any other crybaby threads will be shut down.

It’s personal. The cheap shot made it that. I hope the Bills continue to grow and take revenge into their hands. Cheap or Legit. No mercy.

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Honestly, it sucks the Bills lost but that was a hell of an effort and hopefully they learned their lesson. They actually dominated NE in that game, mistakes and bad play calling did them in. Sure the refs didn’t make a few obvious intentional grounding calls and the fantasy holding call on the Allen hit were all bad but the refs didn’t really hurt the Bills. 
 

The Bills should hold their hold their head high, they are for real and the Bills D is the best hands down. 
 

I think the Bills need to be considered as a legit playoff team. Clean up the mistakes and do better at calling plays and they will be damn good. 

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That 3rd interception was a bad call.  Changed the game.   It was also a bad throw of course. 

Tough loss.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Mark80 said:

Zay Jones is terrible as well.  Complete lack of effort.  Never makes plays.  There is no way you can tell me he is a better WR than Duke.  None.  Get him off the team.

I'm inclined to agree. "Terrible" is a strong word, but I do think others should be starting over him.

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Today Zay Jones sucked, Lee Smith sucked. Our entire punting unit should be let go. Yes Punting was a negative for us today. Barkley's best pass was his first pass to Brown. The Patriots are very vulnerable and Brady is scared of our defense. Not sure why we didn't run the ball more, especially when Allen determined today was Christmas. McDermott needs to improve his challenging "process" as it was flawed today... OK on too TN.

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2 minutes ago, Best Player Available said:

Disagree, Look at Kelly's first couple of years. Or for that matter look at the goat today. Not as bad but he sucked.

yeah i saw kelly his first few yrs. while not athletic as JA and while i grade them equal on enthusiasm....the difference in QB smarts plus accuracy is huge when comparing them at the same stage. kelly threw a beautiful accurate spiral from the get go...and he made some mistakes early on but not on this level.His Bills team the first 2 yrs were outmanned.In fact I think this years D could be as good as the 64,65,88 and 98 teams.

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5 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

If an O lineman sticks his leg out it's a trip no doubt.  That close to the line of scrimmage why is it not tripping for a TE? Even without contact it was clear he stuck his leg out to trip him.

 

There has to be contact for it to be a penalty. It cannot be offensive pass interference by intent. He has to actually trip him. If he makes any contact it is PI. I don't think the refs didn't call it because there was no contact I think they missed it but they can't overturn when the video doesn't show any actual contact. 

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