ALLEN1QB Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? 3 2 2
Mr. WEO Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:33 PM, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? Expand Because it's in the rule book? 1
ALLEN1QB Posted September 29, 2019 Author Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:34 PM, Mr. WEO said: Because it's in the rule book? Expand Well that was a brilliant observation obviously that is the case
suorangefan4 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Tell me how we were called for holding 4 times today and I don't think they were called for a single one. The Patriots get a lot of time to throw yet are never holding. Riiight Seems like a lot of the time when the Bills are driving the refs always spot a holding on the them. Edited September 29, 2019 by suorangefan4 2 1
MDH Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Yeah, a personal foul should be an automatic first down even with offsetting penalties. If the foul is in the O it should be automatic loss of down. 2 2
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Agree emotionally, disagree with my head. It's fair enough over the course of a league. I do have to wonder, though, given the Wilfork-Losman hit, if BB****** gave his defenders carte blanche to go helmet-to-helmet with Allen if he ran free. Allen had what, 1 open run and 1 H2H hit...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:33 PM, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? Expand Couldn't agree more, that was a travesty today.
PolishPrince Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:33 PM, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? Expand I was thinking this too, hell if you see a lineman holding just start taking free shots at QB's and WRs to knock them out of game... worst that happens is you replay the down *shrug* What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Just like a tiktak holding call on morse negates a Patriots Offside that would have been a first down 1 1
klos63 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:33 PM, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? Expand I agree. That doesn't seem right.
Bray Wyatt Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:43 PM, PolishPrince said: I was thinking this too, hell if you see a lineman holding just start taking free shots at QB's and WRs to knock them out of game... worst that happens is you replay the down *shrug* What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Just like a tiktak holding call on morse negates a Patriots Offside that would have been a first down Expand you can see on the replay that the flag was being thrown while Allen was running
PolishPrince Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:50 PM, Bray Wyatt said: you can see on the replay that the flag was being thrown while Allen was running Expand shut up 4
Dan Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 It is mind boggling how many critical plays the refs give that team. Crucial, game altering penalties always seem to benefit them. 2
Buffalo716 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:43 PM, PolishPrince said: I was thinking this too, hell if you see a lineman holding just start taking free shots at QB's and WRs to knock them out of game... worst that happens is you replay the down *shrug* What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Just like a tiktak holding call on morse negates a Patriots Offside that would have been a first down Expand The flag for the hold was thrown before allen was hit
djp14150 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:34 PM, suorangefan4 said: Tell me how we were called for holding 4 times today and I don't think they were called for a single one. The Patriots get a lot of time to throw yet are never holding. Riiight Seems like a lot of the time when the Bills are driving the refs always spot a holding on the them. Expand I think the rule book book says they are exempt from the rule. It’s stated in part F subsection U 2
Bray Wyatt Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) On 9/29/2019 at 8:51 PM, PolishPrince said: shut up Expand I’m not happy about it, I was pissed off watching the replay and saw it and knew we were ***** Edited September 29, 2019 by Bray Wyatt 1
djp14150 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:33 PM, ALLEN1QB said: Tell me how a vicious helmet to helmet and a holding penalty are offsetting? Expand The rule dhould berither A flagrant PF over rules all penalties or it’s a double penalty of two 15yards. One is removed with offense penalty. 1
ColdFront_USAF Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:43 PM, PolishPrince said: I was thinking this too, hell if you see a lineman holding just start taking free shots at QB's and WRs to knock them out of game... worst that happens is you replay the down *shrug* What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Just like a tiktak holding call on morse negates a Patriots Offside that would have been a first down Expand That's what I was wondering. The precedent they just set, is that as soon as a flag gets thrown on the opposing team the players enter the thunderdome and all bets are off. Who cares if you take a vicious h2h shot on a ball carrier or blown out someone's ACL with a late hit, as long as there was another penalty it will just offset. Its a bad look when the league is preaching player safety as a priority, but weighs a weak holding call the same as potentially killing/crippling a player with a cheap shot. 1
PolishPrince Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:53 PM, Buffalo716 said: The flag for the hold was thrown before allen was hit Expand Shut up
Buffalo716 Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) On 9/29/2019 at 9:14 PM, PolishPrince said: Shut up Expand How bout you shut your mouth It's a dirty hit but the flag was thrown before it Edited September 29, 2019 by Buffalo716
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:43 PM, PolishPrince said: What bothers me about this, is I saw 0 flags on the field until vicious hit on Allen, then flags come out... Why was there not already a flag on field for holding? Expand I wonder why...Brady couldn't play today because he had a full stomach....and it wasn't ranch dressing
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