Joe B. All-22 From Bengals game

[YoloinOhio]

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Josh Allen has done a better job in 2019 of getting the ball out of his hand quickly, though against the Bengals, Allen held onto the ball for an average of 2.94 seconds. For comparison, as my colleague Matthew Fairburn wrote, Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton held onto it for an average of 2.38. That difference of 0.56 seconds, on average, can determine whether a pass rush gets into the backfield or you don’t even have a chance. For Dalton, getting the ball out that quickly helped hide the Bengals’ poor offensive line play. Conversely, Allen’s proclivity to hang onto the ball tested the Bills’ offensive line every possession.

good stuff on Ford at RG, Edmunds progress, how they will replace Harry (Jordan Phillips + Peko)

Edited September 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[billsfan89]

Good to see Ford excelled at guard, no need to rush Feliciano back. Still hope that he could have been a plug and play RT out the gate, but some development will be needed and all O-line positions have nearly equal value now. It does seem like Josh had a slow down in his release. But of course that's going to come with a rookie QB ups and downs. 

[TroutDog]

I think Josh’s average release time gets skewed by some of his scrambles. For instance, there was one play where he held it for eight seconds!!!

[gobills1212]

Uh oh... edmunds and ford haters will hate on this lol

[Kelly the Dog]

23 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

I think Josh’s average release time gets skewed by some of his scrambles. For instance, there was one play where he held it for eight seconds!!!

It's the most stupidest stat there is because of that.

[White Linen]

I'm not posting this to bash Joe B but I think credibility for knowing how to look at film matters.  Just saying you looked at film is still dependent on ones ability to translate what they're seeing.  Making the statement Josh Allen holding on to the ball for an average of 2.94 seconds as a "proclivity" (ridiculous),  tested the Bills offensive line every possession is pretty absurd.  What if it results in a 25 yard pass or he's properly going through his progressions or no one is open?  

 

On that comment it's hard for me to take him seriously.   Maybe there's more substance/context in the article because I don't subscribe to The Athletic. 

[DJB]

Ford does seem more like a natural fit at guard. I think we need to keep him there and let him develop rather than going back and forth between tackle and guard

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, DJB said:

Ford does seem more like a natural fit at guard. I think we need to keep him there and let him develop rather than going back and forth between tackle and guard

Feliciano may have actually beaten him out at RG...  but if he has to miss any time with the neck thing good to know ford playing well 

[Heitz]

30 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

I think Josh’s average release time gets skewed by some of his scrambles. For instance, there was one play where he held it for eight seconds!!!

 

Would be interesting to see the time stat for every throw, you could get a better feel for an average throw.  And see the scrambles and flip plays...

[DJB]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Feliciano may have actually beaten him out at RG...  but if he has to miss any time with the neck thing good to know ford playing well 

 

Oh I agree that Feliciano has been better no disputing that.

 

Id actually like to see Feliciano at LG , Cody at RG and Spain on the bench. 

[The Wiz]

34 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

I think Josh’s average release time gets skewed by some of his scrambles. For instance, there was one play where he held it for eight seconds!!!

Same could be said about the sweeps when he "passes" it to Mckenzie. It probably is in his hands for 1/10 of a second. There are definitely going to be outliers on both ends. 

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, DJB said:

Ford does seem more like a natural fit at guard. I think we need to keep him there and let him develop rather than going back and forth between tackle and guard

Agreed. I’d give Ford a small chance at become becoming a very good RT and a solid chance at becoming a very good guard.  

[DJB]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Agreed. I’d give Ford a small chance at become becoming a very good RT and a solid chance at becoming a very good guard.  

 

Im a big Daniel Jeremiah fan and he basically said this. Pro Bowl type guard potential with Ford.

[Solomon Grundy]

48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

good stuff on Ford at RG, Edmunds progress, how they will replace Harry (Jordan Phillips + Peko)

Anything from Cover 1. I like his breakdown best

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Feliciano may have actually beaten him out at RG...  but if he has to miss any time with the neck thing good to know ford playing well 

 

Which makes that an even better FA signing! I don’t care where we get them, as long as we are loaded with talent! It will all work out in the end. 

[Stank_Nasty]

44 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

Uh oh... edmunds and ford haters will hate on this lol

Don’t subscribe. What was said about Edmunds?

[Bangarang]

Through 3 games, it’s clear that Ford struggles more at RT than he does at RG. Probably would be best to keep him inside at this point.

[TroutDog]

15 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Same could be said about the sweeps when he "passes" it to Mckenzie. It probably is in his hands for 1/10 of a second. There are definitely going to be outliers on both ends. 

Yes, but we only discuss positive things related to Josh here. ? 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I have the 7-day game pass trial and was just watching the all-22. 

 

Foster was getting open out there, but JA was not really looking his way. Not sure what Joe B said about Edmunds, but he looked terrific in pass coverage. I still am unclear whether he is doing exactly what is asked of him in the run game by just staying in his gap, as opposed to trying to attack more. 

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Don’t subscribe. What was said about Edmunds?

Paraphrasing —

-trusted his eyes this week more in the run game. Fired into the running lane. Forced the RB to choose otherwise. 

 

 -was also a monster in the open field

 

—routinely took away space in pass coverage, when playing man-to-man and zone.

 

-speed and athleticism to get to the edges and continued to force the runner out wide.

 

- hiccup was a screen play late in the game that went for 33 yards and set up the Bengals’ go-ahead field goal. Edmunds was the last line of defense and was gobbled up by a blocker.